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Old 10-18-2005, 08:20 PM
stupidsucker stupidsucker is offline
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Default $11 JJ laydown... good bad?

***** Hand History for Game 2857138496 *****
15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 16467417) - Tue Oct 18 20:17:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 35259 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: MIC61892 (895)
Seat 2: walletDump (1235)
Seat 3: P0t_Commit3d (800)
Seat 4: DENTMASTERB (455)
Seat 5: K8394772 (775)
Seat 6: smoke1977 (740)
Seat 7: Bigduck85 (795)
Seat 8: poxyman (705)
Seat 9: lone_dopey (800)
Seat 10: bigj0e03z (800)
Bigduck85 posts small blind (10)
poxyman posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to P0t_Commit3d [ Jd, Jh ]
lone_dopey folds.
bigj0e03z folds.
MIC61892 folds.
walletDump calls (15)
P0t_Commit3d calls (15)
DENTMASTERB folds.
K8394772 folds.
smoke1977 calls (15)
Bigduck85 calls (5)
poxyman checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kh, 9h, Jc ]
Bigduck85 checks.
poxyman bets (50)
walletDump folds.
P0t_Commit3d raises (275) to 275
smoke1977 calls (275)
Bigduck85 folds.
poxyman calls (225)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
poxyman checks.
P0t_Commit3d bets (15)
smoke1977 raises (125) to 125
poxyman calls (125)
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:22 PM
Nick M Nick M is offline
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Default Re: $11 JJ laydown... good bad?

personally i don't like the raise. I would just let this one go, it's to early to get busted...or lose more than a third of your stack

EDIT: wow i sooooo read this question wrong, i will leave this retarded reply here as an example for people who read too fast
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: $11 JJ laydown... good bad?

You're closing the action and are getting 80 bajillion:1 in hopes of filling up. I don't get it.
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: $11 JJ laydown... good bad?

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personally i don't like the raise. I would just let this one go, it's to early to get busted...or lose more than a third of your stack

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What don't you like about the raise? Too much? Not enough? He's got the third nuts on the flop, surely you can't think you're behind here based on a t50 bet!
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:36 PM
Nick M Nick M is offline
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Default Re: $11 JJ laydown... good bad?

Holy Sh1t!!! I completely read that wrong hahahaa I thought it came Kxx hahaha ok i'm a jackass.

OK if they are going to call that big raise then i say make it. I can't believe you got 2 callers though. I like the play. if you ran into Q10 it sucks, but you got outs i guess.

Thanks Kyro
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:37 PM
kyro kyro is offline
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Default Re: $11 JJ laydown... good bad?

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Holy Sh1t!!! I completely read that wrong hahahaa I thought it came Kxx hahaha ok i'm a jackass.

OK if they are going to call that big raise then i say make it. I can't believe you got 2 callers though. I like the play. if you ran into Q10 it sucks, but you got outs i guess.

Thanks Kyro

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Old 10-18-2005, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: $11 JJ laydown... good bad?

i think its a good laydown, I would have raised preflop though
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: $11 JJ laydown... good bad?

$11-$33 with your position and the one limper: Raise to 75-100 preflop, push any undercard flop, play smart with an A or K flop. You'll get paid off by worse hands a ton.

I think you're looking in the wrong spots for mistakes. Start with blocking and tackling in these low level sngs.
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:35 PM
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i think its a good laydown, I would have raised preflop though

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!!!!

OMG YOU ARE GETTING 10:1 AND HAVE LIKELY 10 OUTS!!!!!! NOT TO MENTION THE ODDS YOU'LL END UP STACKING THE GUY WHO HIT HIS FLUSH.

Seriously, I would push this before I would fold.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: $11 JJ laydown... good bad?

Look man, I don't want to come down too hard but this entire hand, with the exception of maybe the flop, was horribly played. You have to raise with J's preflop EVERY time, there are 9 cards in the deck that make them worthless. The flop was a good raise, but the turn was just ridiculous. I know the heart was a scare card but you have a great chance of still having the best hand not to mention ten outs. That means that you have a 20 percent chance of winning and only need 5 to 1 odds to call which you obviously have.
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