what affects roi the most?

okay, someone point me to a friggin faq, or lets make a thread, discussing protection of a big stack (from an early double up) without getting splashy.

I get the big stack, I start playing a lil bit looser, and all of the sudden, my beautiful 1800 chips becomes my nice but kinda dinky 1347 chips.

[Degen]

i think what is implied is that 1 and 2 are bubble play and HU play

[MegaBet]

I'd say it's the pushes late in the game. When the blinds are high, what you push and what people call with is the difference between if you place and where you place...which is, after all, where your ROI comes from.

[stupidsucker]

I got better response from this then I expected...

A lot of great ideas have come out of it and I would like to research it further. Raptor makes a very good point about the skill level being directly relative to earlier play being more important.

Might I suggest we narrow this down a little further. I missed an obvious one, Bubble play. I would not includ such things as Big stack play or short stack play because they dont happen in every SnG you play, but I am open to ideas.

[pooh74]

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I'd say it's the pushes late in the game. When the blinds are high, what you push and what people call with is the difference between if you place and where you place...which is, after all, where your ROI comes from.

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yeah, but learning that is easy (relatively). Its effect over 1 SNG is enormous, granted, but if you choose your pushes and calls wisely, then over time, this should be a nuetral variable for good players.

Raptor's point is a good one. For instance, thinking about his reponse and mine, I think early game looseness is where I get into trouble (and even when I'm leaking like a whore I still do ok). At the lower levels though, exploiting the bubble is where your ROI is made, which contradicts what I say, yes, but if I always know good bubble play (which I think I do), then my ROI goes up or down from somehting else, meaning early-mid game play.

[ebaudry]

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What affects roi the most (long term)
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Half-assed ISP. THis is not a joke. "

Dude, you are not alone. I have lost at best guess $150-200 over 800 tournaments due to my &^$#%^\-ing internet connection. As I look at moving, a new ISP is seriously one the things I am most excited about.

Getting timed out then blinded to death on Lvl 6 on 2 tables at once is enough to make anyone crazy.

[lorinda]

Someone pulled me recently on assuming it was always bubble play.

At the limits you play, it's bubble play.

Lori

[MegaBet]

You can play perfect 4-5 handed SNG strategy and still either get sucked out on by a dumb call or walk into a monster. This is single-handedly the biggest factor in my ROI, even considering the long term effects.

[lorinda]

Having just read Raptor's reply, you might as well read it again and ignore mine.

Lori

[Degen]

lol dude

do you not see that bubble play effects ROI more than anything else? at least up to the 33's...

second is definately heads up play, without a doubt


i also agree with what rap said about the early play being key at the 109's...as most of them play the bubble g00t