Turn Decision

GTSamIAm · #1 09-14-2005, 05:33 PM

Game is pretty loose so far. Most people are passive. I don't have any real specific reads on the players yet. I don't like 3-betting, flat calling, or folding. I think my best line is to flat call to keep weaker hands betting into me, and to charge myself less when someone has a strong hand. 3-betting knocks out weak hands and keeps in the strong ones. Thoughts?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP raises, Hero?

McGahee · #2 09-14-2005, 05:42 PM

Don't see many worse hands calling 2 cold anyway. With no draws or reads I'd muck it.

Asim · #3 09-14-2005, 06:38 PM

you have TPGK... you have a good chance that you do hvae the best hand... someone could easily be raising with Jx of any kind...there is a chance one of these players has 2-pair... and it may be very likely since you mentioned that players are passive... you are getting 5:1 and you do have outs, (3 kings, 2 jacks) on top of that you also have outs to counterfeit if the raiser is holding J8 or J4.... I doubt they have sets... I think they would have bet right away, esp to protect their hand since the flush draw was there.... you could call... see a river, call one bet UI or fold if its raised again. what do the others think... personally I would either call and see a 1-bet showdown, or I would 3-bet the turn to hopefully have it checked to you at the river and you can either be the aggressor or ch to see a free showdown if you are afraid of a ch/r

*EDIT*: muck it... I didnt notice the flop bet and then turn raise by MP2... normally that suggests strength.. most ppl go for that move when they hold 2pr or better....

if the flop was checked all around... and the only action was the turn action... would my thinking be correct? or wayyy off?