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Old 12-14-2005, 03:27 AM
NobodysFreak NobodysFreak is offline
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Default Re: I must be doing something wrong here.

Grunch

Hand 1: Call

Hand 2: Bet the river

Hand 3: Raise the turn

Hand 4: You've gotta call this.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:40 AM
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Hand1: Nice one. He is donking the river here but I still just call.

Hand2: I raise. Seems like he was on some kind of draw or a middle pair. You are ahead here tons of times to justify a bet/call. DONT fold to a raise.

Hand3: I think he limped with a low/medium par, maybe AQ... You are of course ahead and I don't think you should let that flushdraw scare you. Bet away.

Hand4: Call and evaluate on turn.
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Old 12-14-2005, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: I must be doing something wrong here.

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1/I'd switch to call down mode after being C/R on the turn. (converted in a strange way..)
2/BB appears to be on a draw, bet.
3/Fine, call, I'm curious what he had
4/ Fold preflop
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:29 AM
imported_The Vibesman imported_The Vibesman is offline
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Default Re: I must be doing something wrong here.

Hand 1 I call the river. I like the turn 3bet.

Hand 2 I bet the river, expecting to see a weak middle (middling) pair often.

Hand 3 I get one more raise in on the turn before going passive. Would he really play a flush draw that strong on the flop heads up?

Hand 4, you've got to call the flop cap. Turn the Q of hearts, river the Q of clubs. Profit.
Your man here could easily be on a flush draw, but he could also have two pair or a set, so proceed with caution.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:13 PM
Guthrie Guthrie is offline
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Well at least I see I'm not alone. I don't know which is worse, to suck at poker, or just be unlucky. In each of these I hands I had the correct read on villain, but wouldn't believe it. Maybe I should abandon the books and go back to reading opponents. Not much reading to it, actually, if the donks check, call or raise, they either have it or will draw it by the river, so fold.

Hand 1. Villain shows K:d: K:s: and wins with three of a kind, kings.

Hand 2. Villain shows A:s: Q:c: and wins with a pair of queens.

Hand 3: Villain shows A:h: 6:h: and wins with a nut flush, ace high.

Hand 4: Button shows A:h: 7:h:, SB shows 2:c: 3:c: and wins with a flush, jack high, BB mucks.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: I must be doing something wrong here.

Everyone got the first 3 hands right already, but I don't think anyone mentioned just calling the first checkraise and re-evaluating on the turn. I don't think you're losing the middle players very often on a J9xs flop.
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: I must be doing something wrong here.

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Everyone got the first 3 hands right already, but I don't think anyone mentioned just calling the first checkraise and re-evaluating on the turn. I don't think you're losing the middle players very often on a J9xs flop.

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I agree on hand4, calling the c/r and raising a good turn basically non A,K, club is the better play
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:28 PM
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Hand 1. Villain shows K:d: K:s: and wins with three of a kind, kings.


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This gives me a warm fuzzy feeling (once I've gotten over the surprise from not being ahead at showdown). It's like the guy played the hand normally, but afterwards handed me back two big bets, saying, "Here, guy, I thought you should have this back."
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: I must be doing something wrong here.

-grunch-

Hand 1: Raising is hardly "going nuts". Maybe he just has a king. I definitely call this river, and probably raise. I expect to see Kx a lot here. Hopefully not two pair.

Hand 2: I bet the river for value. He could have been drawing to the flush, or have some ragged pair. If he's calling down with a crappy queen, so be it.

Hand 3: He could have hit his set. I don't see him playing A-2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] but it's possible. If he only has a flush draw, then I don't like his play heads up there. You've got the best hand on the flop. Jam it. I raise the turn too. Like I said, if he's playing the flush draw that fast, it's spewing on his part. If he 3 bets the turn I call. And if he just calls my turn raise, but bets into me on the river, I might STILL raise the river.

Hand 4: Hero calls and raises/bets a non- [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] turn.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:46 PM
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Hand 1. Villain shows K:d: K:s: and wins with three of a kind, kings.


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This gives me a warm fuzzy feeling (once I've gotten over the surprise from not being ahead at showdown). It's like the guy played the hand normally, but afterwards handed me back two big bets, saying, "Here, guy, I thought you should have this back."

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Well, that's one way to look at it. Eases the pain somewhat.
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