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Old 12-08-2005, 10:22 PM
Kumubou Kumubou is offline
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I already wrote these guys an e-mail.

Why would a poker room encourage players to fold?
and
How will this improve their amount of rake?

Pure genius.

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It should be pretty clear. If the losing players get better, they will lose fewer bets per hand to the winning players... but the rake per 100 hands does not change (much, there probably is a slight dip as rake thresholds are hit less often), so a bigger percentage of money from the available pool goes to the house.

This is devioushly clever of them. Every player that goes from being a 60% VPIP player to a 40% VPIP player will make the house more money, as the winning players start winning less.

-K
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:40 PM
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It should be pretty clear. If the losing players get better, they will lose fewer bets per hand to the winning players... but the rake per 100 hands does not change (much, there probably is a slight dip as rake thresholds are hit less often), so a bigger percentage of money from the available pool goes to the house.

This is devioushly clever of them. Every player that goes from being a 60% VPIP player to a 40% VPIP player will make the house more money, as the winning players start winning less.

-K

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less limps = smaller pots

'nuff said
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: PokerRewards Poker Calculator

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I already wrote these guys an e-mail.

Why would a poker room encourage players to fold?
and
How will this improve their amount of rake?

Pure genius.

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By evening out th eplaying field money moves around much more.
Since they take a rake each time it is in their interest for the players to be as equal as possible.

In the ideal world, they would love all the players to be exactly the same level. In that case the money just gets passed around with the rake eventually eating up all the money.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:12 AM
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Yeah and we all know winning players love to stay at sites without any fish. Empire is doing better than ever.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:16 AM
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Im suprised no one has mentioned the fact that they are trying to get players with more than 1 prima account to play at pokerrewards. I have 700 hands left in a bonud there, better clear it before 1/2 turns into a bunch of pros!
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:53 AM
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this is so [censored] stupid
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:12 AM
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Yes, they will get tougher and learn more, but so should you! Career development is part of the picture.

If you are serious about making poker a career, you might want to consider this. Eventually, because poker rooms online have expenses to pay, the game becomes a negative sum game. There has to be new money coming in all the time. Put the emphasis on entertainment money! It is usually not high stakes, or life changing. That money comes from entertaining the weaker player, and making them want to come back and try again because it was "Fun!"

For those who really want to earn a living with poker, we just need to follow some strong business strategies to make sure we can survive when the game does get tougher. We need to consider how to keep our expenses down, and make good investments for the future. This includes family and other forms of entertainment and business. Most of us will find business avenues to ensure the stability of our income when or if poker becomes tougher.

That is the beauty of businesses like online forums and portals. It helps prepare us for other types of work. People with the skills to play and read people in poker, are usually talented people with real world skill...and all this is assuming we don't squander our time or our money at the table. It is a foolish man or woman who takes all their money to the table!

At the point where you really go all-in, with your whole life, you have ceased to be a pro, IMO, and turned into a gambler. The ego rush is greater than the possible reward, but how does it compare to the despair of being broke. Will the world always have another stake for you?

I am not making your decisions for you by any means, but i am surely expressing my own feelings.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: PokerRewards Poker Calculator

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[ QUOTE ]
I already wrote these guys an e-mail.

Why would a poker room encourage players to fold?
and
How will this improve their amount of rake?

Pure genius.

[/ QUOTE ]
It should be pretty clear. If the losing players get better, they will lose fewer bets per hand to the winning players... but the rake per 100 hands does not change (much, there probably is a slight dip as rake thresholds are hit less often), so a bigger percentage of money from the available pool goes to the house.

This is devioushly clever of them. Every player that goes from being a 60% VPIP player to a 40% VPIP player will make the house more money, as the winning players start winning less.


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More importantly, every Poker Rewards player that takes money from other Prima players and thus plays more hands than they would have makes them more money at the expense of the other skins.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: PokerRewards Poker Calculator

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I already wrote these guys an e-mail.

Why would a poker room encourage players to fold?
and
How will this improve their amount of rake?

Pure genius.

[/ QUOTE ]
By evening out th eplaying field money moves around much more.
Since they take a rake each time it is in their interest for the players to be as equal as possible.

In the ideal world, they would love all the players to be exactly the same level. In that case the money just gets passed around with the rake eventually eating up all the money.

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While it is true that the game could tighten, but the advice that calculator gives is simply horrible. No mention of position, pot size etc. You know what they say about a little knowledge.

Besides, fish want action too. If the pots start getting smaller and folded around a lot, they might just pick up and go to poker rooms with more action.
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