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Old 12-06-2005, 04:18 PM
rbear rbear is offline
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Default 22: Standard Steals?

Haven't opened yet. Pretty standard?

Hero on CO
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 9: Hero ( $680 )
Seat 6: knib_poker ( $905 )
Seat 2: PL0815 ( $470 )
Seat 5: sergiochavez ( $1135 )
Seat 4: ambrosiarose ( $1730 )
Seat 7: dengamle1 ( $335 )
Seat 1: Gewuzz ( $670 )
Seat 3: mikeyfoldem ( $1285 )
Seat 10: WhiteBoy_147 ( $790 )
Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qh 9h ]
mikeyfoldem folds.
ambrosiarose folds.
sergiochavez folds.
knib_poker folds.
dengamle1 folds.
Hero raises [175].

Since then I've doubled up w/ JJ push, and the blinds have went through me.

Hero on Button
Seat 9: Hero ( $935 )
Seat 6: knib_poker ( $905 )
Seat 5: sergiochavez ( $750 )
Seat 4: ambrosiarose ( $1780 )
Seat 7: dengamle1 ( $1450 )
Seat 3: mikeyfoldem ( $2180 )
Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 5d 6c ]
sergiochavez folds.
knib_poker folds.
dengamle1 folds.
Hero??

Too weak tight to fold this UTG?

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 9: Hero ( $1085 )
Seat 6: knib_poker ( $805 )
Seat 5: sergiochavez ( $600 )
Seat 4: ambrosiarose ( $1980 )
Seat 7: dengamle1 ( $1450 )
Seat 3: mikeyfoldem ( $2080 )
Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to WamBamTYMaam [ Jc Ac ]
Hero folds.
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:19 PM
pooh74 pooh74 is offline
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Default Re: 22: Standard Steal?

Personally...I would fold, fold, push.
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:28 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: 22: Standard Steal?

I don't love the first one, not because the steal position or hand is particularly bad, but only because of what it does to your stack should it fail. The 2nd hand I fold, definitely. The 3rd hand I push, most of the time.
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:47 PM
infinite_loop infinite_loop is offline
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Default Re: 22: Standard Steals?

Hand 1: You're risking way too much at this level with Q9 without putting the blinds to the test. Fold.

Hand 2: Usually a fold, considering the stacks, how poor the hand is heads-up, and your stack size.

Hand 3: I usually push that.
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Old 12-06-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: 22: Standard Steals?

on the first one, i think you've got enough time to make a more +EV move than trying to steal with Q9s... it's not a terrible spot, but there's no urgency yet.

second, i lay it down. i know you're under 10BB but against any two randomly, this hand isn't going to hold up well and the two stacks left to act are the two biggest stacks at the table.

third, push. you've got decent FE and AJs is a good-looking hand here.
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:01 PM
tewall tewall is offline
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Default Re: 22: Standard Steals?

The first one is either push or fold because you don't want to induce someone to come over the top. Plus your OOP, so even more reason to push or fold.

I think pushing is probably EV neutral, so would wait for a better spot, but would be tempted. If Stack size were a bit smaller, I'd push. Make it a QJs and I'd push with given stack size.

Fold #2, Push #3.
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:16 PM
EnderFFX EnderFFX is offline
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Default Re: 22: Standard Steals?

1st: push or fold (what do you do if someone comes over the top of you?)
2nd: fold
3rd: push
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: 22: Standard Steals?

1st: raise to 125, fold to a push
2nd: fold
3rd: push
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