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Old 10-28-2005, 12:44 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: $22 TPTK -- Nut flush draw how\'s the line

i wouldn't say this is a trivial call. with that action, there's a pretty good chance someone has a set, in which case you're only 25% to win. this is well below what you need for a neutral chipEV play, and way below what you need for neutral cashEV. as it was, hero had 11 outs, so about 43%. this is somewhat more than chipEV requirement, i'd guess it's about neutral cashEV. you need to be ahead somewhat often to make this call.
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Old 10-28-2005, 02:03 AM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: $22 TPTK -- Nut flush draw how\'s the line

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i wouldn't say this is a trivial call. with that action, there's a pretty good chance someone has a set, in which case you're only 25% to win. this is well below what you need for a neutral chipEV play, and way below what you need for neutral cashEV. as it was, hero had 11 outs, so about 43%. this is somewhat more than chipEV requirement, i'd guess it's about neutral cashEV. you need to be ahead somewhat often to make this call.

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At the $22s, those times someone has a set is offset when one of them has KQ and the other has a worse flush draw.
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Old 10-28-2005, 02:07 AM
kyro kyro is offline
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Default Re: $22 TPTK -- Nut flush draw how\'s the line

I'd raise more initially...to like 200 or so. And of course you call the all-in. You may have the best hand as it is, and if you don't, you have plenty of outs to catch up.
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