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Old 08-14-2005, 09:07 PM
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ever been to a casino? look at the people who hit on 17 or double down with a 9 when the dealer shows a 10 cause they feel lucky. Its not rare at all. How much do u think the gubment makes on lottery? There are all kinds of people in the world.
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Old 08-14-2005, 10:20 PM
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ever been to a casino? look at the people who hit on 17 or double down with a 9 when the dealer shows a 10 cause they feel lucky. Its not rare at all. How much do u think the gubment makes on lottery? There are all kinds of people in the world.

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the lottery is a different beast. gamblers will throw around a few hundred dollars at the casino just for the hell of it. people buy lottery tickets because they want to completely turn around their lives in one instant because they don't want to put in the work/time to do it the hard way.
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Old 08-15-2005, 04:19 AM
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Interesting topic to me because I probably have about 15-20 real life friends who have ALL played poker online and lost money. I used to be a part of this mold before I started winning I had lost two $50 deposits and quit and bought into the general consensus that online poker was rigged. Then I did my homework and came back with a vengeance. I can tell you first hand that there are ALOT of college kids out there who think they are GODS GIFT TO POKER.

Like i said, i personally know in real life about 15-20 players who HONESTLY believe they are great players but all have lost money online. Why do they believe they're great? Because ofcourse every other night they take down the big $5 tournament at a buddy's house. None of them really are winning they're just switching their money around every now and then and when they win they attribute it to being good players.

I personally know of a guy who lost his life savings online. He is not some rich business man, he was a college guy 21 years old, lost his life savings online because he had no self control. He lost about 12,000. I've got another friend who whole heartedly believes that he is a GREAT player and that whenever he loses online its because of "bull sh*t and suck outs". He has been playing on and off for about a year now with just $50 deposits and is probably down about 6,000. He borrows from people to play, ends up owing his girlfriend and friends money, and spent the summer working to pay it off. Each time he goes broke he says he's quitting for good but a month or so later comes back to the game, runs hot for a bit and thinks he's "figured it out".. only to lose again.

Another friend of mine plays every day and drinks all day while playing, it's pretty sad really. They all constantly msg me about bad beats they took and the reason why they can't win but none of them have any idea they're chasing after something they can't catch. The question was what type of people out there are losing money online? Well I see them with my own eyes every day at school. They think they're good, they try out online.. take some bad beats and think eventually they'll win... end up running hot then going bust.

They hear about my success and think "hey i've beaten this guy heads up in our tournaments before (lucky suck outs) and he's winning then ofcourse I can too!". And these are just college kids my age who don't have money so you can imagine the full grown adults with money to burn.
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:45 AM
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I find it interesting when people "worry" about what others are spending/losing on poker. Do you worry if your neighbor or friend buys a new car, or tickets to the game, or golf lessons, etc.? They are all individual choices.

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To some extent I can agree with your post, in one sense there is something simular between spending money on gambling and on other things like a new car.
But I think that if I sold the car to the neighbour, I might worry about if he could afford it or not. And even more so if I suspected that he might be addicted to shopping.
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Old 08-15-2005, 06:52 AM
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And this is why one really would prefer denial instead of thinking about the morality in poker..
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:37 AM
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And these are just college kids my age who don't have money so you can imagine the full grown adults with money to burn.

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good post. but i think you have this last sentence backwards. full grown adults may have more money, but they've also had more up and downs, successes and failure in life and are much more likely to understand that they aren't good at everything. substantially more college kids are going to think that they are winners because a lot of college kids have been babied and pampered all the way through their lives and they've had the "everyone's special, including you!" message beaten into their heads every day since grade 1. that's just part of the culture today.
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