Comment on Miller's Editorial

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Online tables move at about 60 hands per hour. That's not double the number of hands in b&m, now that casinos have automatic shufflers.

Also, winning 1 bb per 60 hands equals 1.67 bb/100. Maintaining that winrate, OVER THE LONG RUN, while multitabling more than 4 tables at once, for more than 4 hours per day, at 15/30 (or even more unlikely at 30/60) is fiction.

Show me a five-year-running success story with the above stats, and I'll show you a liar.

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A 30/60 player earning 1.5BBs/hr playing 40 hours/wk, 50 weeks per year would not earn $200K, and I suspect that VERY few 30/60 players can sustain that win rate over such a grueling schedule. I believe that earning $200K/yr would place you among the very top echelon of professional players--far from "no big deal" earnings.


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I think a lot of the big winners who do make over 200K a year don't really come on 2+2 and talk about it. I'm also fairly convinced that a lot of people are underestimating how many players do make this kind of money.

Like people have said earlier a 30/60 player can easily make this much simply by multitabling. Even if you were a mediocre 1BB/100 hand winner you will reach the 200K mark just by playing enough tables and enough hands throughout the year.

If you read the mid/high forums on a regular basis you will see there are lots of people who play 8 tables of 30/60 at a time and many more who do more than that. Also if you can play 8 tables of 30/60, moving to the 100/200 games and beyond to the 300/600 games are not that much of a big deal. Simply because there aren't that many 300/600 games to be played online to begin with. Add up the numbers and it can get staggering.

And no, making 200K a year does not (in my mind) place you on the top echelon of poker players. My personal opinion is that it's not that difficult.

Oh btw, I do believe that it is much easier for a younger player with fewer expenses to continually move up. If you are married with kids with a lot of commitments and expenses I believe it's fairly difficult to move up to a point where you're making outrageous money. Most of what you make will go to paying bills and luxury items.

For a younger player with not too much expenses he/she could just never touch his/her bankroll and use it to move up in limits all the time.

Where do you play where there is a large spread of games (good number of 30/60 tables) and you can get Rakeback too?

Pls. tell me! The only site I know that has a good number of 30/60 tables going on all the time is Party.
Are you playing on a skin of party?