Set Of Jacks, River Decision

carniplant · #1 01-13-2005, 08:17 PM

UTG is a LAG
SB is a TAG ,knows i'm a TAG

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG+1 raises, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 caps, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, SB calls, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls, SB calls.

River: (24 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 raises, SB 3-bets, Hero ?????

Buck_65 · #2 01-13-2005, 08:41 PM

Only one possible holding has you beat, call when its 2 back to you on the river and call a cap.

UTG+1 and SB are both trying to represent pocket aces and I think one of them must have just rivered their 2 outer, but for the sake of my sanity I would show this down every time in a pot this large.

Edit: I just saw your read on SB as a TAG who knows you're a TAG. Given his action, I strongly consider folding but probably talk myself into spewing a couple more bets for the sake of my sanity.

wayabvpar · #3 01-13-2005, 08:49 PM

I am guessing LAG has some fluky 2 pair (Aces up) and SB has the case aces, which puts you in 2nd place. Even then, it is tough to lay that down on the river for 2 bets getting 12-1.

My question- why not cap the flop with the nuts? You know LAG is going to come along for 2 more, and even TAG will pay 1 to see the turn with the pot size.

private joker · #4 01-13-2005, 08:59 PM

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Only one possible holding has you beat, call when its 2 back to you on the river and call a cap.

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Only one *likely* holding has him beat. 43 is the nuts, but the chances of even a LAG having that are about 1%.

It's hard to fold this but SB's line looks insanely like AA. This pot is pretty huge, though, so you might have to suck it up and pay 3 more BB (since it'll get capped).

afk · #5 01-13-2005, 09:11 PM

well you can call or raise, in my opinion. It's going to 4 bets anyways. If one of them spiked their 3rd Ace then so be it.

ggbman · #6 01-13-2005, 09:31 PM

Folding here is INSANE. Your ahead more then enough to justify calling even if you know the river is getting capped. You could be up against a smaller set and two pair very easily here.

kpux · #7 01-13-2005, 09:46 PM

SB is a TAG, I doubt he would 3-bet preflop with 66 or 55.

Seeing as how he woke up on the river, it looks almost exactly like AA. But he could have something like A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Folding here is crazy, this is a huge pot and you aren't dead for sure.