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Old 10-13-2005, 09:24 AM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default I warn you, don\'t watch this video (anti-fur vid)

Before you watch this video, please read what I'm going to say. bad video

This is a video of animals being skinned in preparation from being turned into fur coats.

Now, before I saw this, I wasn't against fur coats. I mean, if you breed animals for the purpose of having fur coats, then it's kinda the same as breeding them for food.

However, in this video, it shows animals being skinned alive, being very much conscious of the process of being skinned, and being discarded, after being skinned, while still alive (not being killed mercifully).

I'd always wondered how they had fox-heads in fur coats, paws, etc. I mean, didn't they kill the animals by shooting them / slitting their throats before they skinned them?

Apparently not, I guess.

If this is what truly happens, then this sort of thing should be stopped. It's not decent, basically. I don't know what to say other than that.

My only concern here is that this may be a "propaganda film", and that this may not be the general truth about the process that these animals go through before/during being skinned.

Does anyone on here have any actual knowledge of this field that can be backed up by a source other than this video?

Any comments if you do choose to watch the video? (I again state that this is a really graphic video, you probably don't want to see it.)

--Dave.
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: I warn you, don\'t watch this video (anti-fur vid)

i personally see no problem with the fur industry. just think back to the old days.. way back. people would just kill animals and use them for fur, meat, whatever. it's not my bag to torture animals for thier fur, or for any reason, but if people want fur, there are animals out there with it, i think they have a right to get it (sadly).
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: I warn you, don\'t watch this video (anti-fur vid)

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i personally see no problem with the fur industry. just think back to the old days.. way back. people would just kill animals and use them for fur, meat, whatever. it's not my bag to torture animals for thier fur, or for any reason, but if people want fur, there are animals out there with it, i think they have a right to get it (sadly).

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I see. Since they did it in the "old days" it must be alright.

I'm off to buy a slave now.
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: I warn you, don\'t watch this video (anti-fur vid)

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i personally see no problem with the fur industry. just think back to the old days.. way back. people would just kill animals and use them for fur, meat, whatever. it's not my bag to torture animals for thier fur, or for any reason, but if people want fur, there are animals out there with it, i think they have a right to get it (sadly).

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I see. Since they did it in the "old days" it must be alright.

I'm off to buy a slave now.

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you're making an argument (sarcasically) that i never made.

anyway by old days i was talking about way back when you had to kill to survive.
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Old 10-13-2005, 10:09 AM
Tailgunner Tailgunner is offline
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Default Re: I warn you, don\'t watch this video (anti-fur vid)

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anyway by old days i was talking about way back when you had to kill to survive.

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That's the thing.. just as in nature today animals will consume each other alive, lay eggs so the larva can devour them alive, etc. The difference is that is about survival and the propagation of the species, we do it to look good.

I don't have a wholesale objection to the fur industry, or any consumption of animal products... it's the methods and the demand I despise. Nature can be unbelieveably cruel. Mankind is unnecessarily cruel.

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Old 10-13-2005, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: I warn you, don\'t watch this video (anti-fur vid)

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i personally see no problem with the fur industry. just think back to the old days.. way back. people would just kill animals and use them for fur, meat, whatever. it's not my bag to torture animals for thier fur, or for any reason, but if people want fur, there are animals out there with it, i think they have a right to get it (sadly).

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Daryn cmon. who cares what they did in the old days.
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Old 10-13-2005, 10:10 AM
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i personally see no problem with the fur industry. just think back to the old days.. way back. people would just kill animals and use them for fur, meat, whatever. it's not my bag to torture animals for thier fur, or for any reason, but if people want fur, there are animals out there with it, i think they have a right to get it (sadly).

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Daryn cmon. who cares what they did in the old days.

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maybe i used the wrong terms. i am talking about cavemen
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Old 10-13-2005, 12:44 PM
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maybe i used the wrong terms. i am talking about cavemen

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Old 10-13-2005, 01:19 PM
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anyway by old days i was talking about way back when you had to kill to survive.


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How is this even relevant? We don't need to kill to survive nowadays.
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Old 10-13-2005, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: I warn you, don\'t watch this video (anti-fur vid)

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i personally see no problem with the fur industry. just think back to the old days.. way back. people would just kill animals and use them for fur, meat, whatever. it's not my bag to torture animals for thier fur, or for any reason, but if people want fur, there are animals out there with it, i think they have a right to get it (sadly).

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It's not so much THAT they get it (I'm rather indifferent to this), but rather HOW they get it.

I'd like to see these animals killed somehow before being skinned.
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