Am I a son of a Donk or are you my father?

Lash · #1 10-14-2005, 06:07 PM

Who’s the donk?

No read on the BB other than he’s most likely your typical low-limit loose passive type.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 6 BB

scotty34 · #2 10-14-2005, 06:10 PM

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Who’s the donk?

No read on the BB other than he’s most likely your typical low-limit loose passive type.

Party Poker Hold'em (6 max, 3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 6 BB

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I fail to see your problem.

Lash · #3 10-14-2005, 06:16 PM

My bet on the river feels unatural to me. Especially vs. a non aggressive opponent. Is there really that much value in betting into him?

krimson · #4 10-14-2005, 06:17 PM

Yes, betting is how you get your hands paid off.

scotty34 · #5 10-14-2005, 06:18 PM

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My bet on the river feels unatural to me. Especially vs. a non aggressive opponent. Is there really that much value in betting into him?

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I suppose a check-call is probably better, but maybe some lower PP's etc. will pay you off.

purnell · #6 10-14-2005, 06:38 PM

This looks ok, but checking the river will induce a weaker hand to bet often, especially if your opponent hasn't seen you do it before. I think it's close enough in this spot that it doesn't make alot of difference.

bobbyi · #7 10-14-2005, 06:40 PM

Checking the river here would be terrible.

Lash · #8 10-14-2005, 06:41 PM

Just to clarify… my intention was to fold if raised…

I have it ingrained in me that check-call the river here is standard vs. relative unknowns. As I become more comfortable with some of the thin value bets I should be making… I’m still feeling attached to this habit because I always believed there was this spot where value starts to mean less and conservatism (not losing a whole pot) and bluff inducing come into play. Even vs. your most timid opponents. My intention of course was to fold if raised on the end…

I guess there is no problem with my play here, except… at what pot size would you say this becomes a check-call rather than a bet-fold? Or if the pot is huge should I still go after the value with the intention of calling a raise?

Comments?

goofball · #9 10-14-2005, 07:53 PM

This hand is incredibly boring and standard.

Lash · #10 10-15-2005, 04:16 AM

Well you have officially removed all doubt... I am the son of a donk... and you are my father.