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Old 08-19-2005, 11:11 AM
fivecube fivecube is offline
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Default JJ Hand

No Limit Hand Live Game

Hero($174)
Villian ($172)

Hero is UTG with J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] $1/$2 Blinds

Hero Raises to $6
MP1 (villian) Calls
MP2 Calls
CO Calls

Pot: $27

Flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets $27
Villian after going into the tank pushes all-in.
MP2 Folds, CO Folds.

Hero???? When someone goes into the tank does that generally indicate they are a little weak. I would think if he had my Jacks beat he would either have gone all in right away or just called with a set.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:36 AM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Re: JJ Hand

Going into the tank, then pushing, is always a warning sign for me.

Apart from that, I have no idea. With no idea and a weakish hand, I fold.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:13 PM
btetreau btetreau is offline
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Default Re: JJ Hand

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Villian after going into the tank pushes all-in.

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*warning* *warning*

Against someone who has a clue what they are doing, this is almost always an attempt at second-level thinking, and they want you to call. with only an over-pair, you fold this and wait for a better spot. seems to me like they hit a set and are afraid of the draw.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:22 PM
IamLeach IamLeach is offline
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Default Re: JJ Hand

what type of player is Villian?

I am not real keen on the idea of pushing all in with JJ here but I might call if villian was known to bet draws aggresivly or outright bluff. If he is any kind of player, I would fold here (and maybe claim I am laying down bottom set just for fun) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:49 PM
kongo_totte kongo_totte is offline
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Default Re: JJ Hand

This certainly looks like a flush draw+overs i.e. Ad Kd/Ad Qd. I am not considering the "going in to tank" comment though. This "tell" is very individual and can mean alot of things, often a monster.

I would say a flush draw+overs is best case scenario for you, and you are actually a small dog in that case.

I fold without thinking about it too much.
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