Hand from Stars $10R

[TxDozerMan]

CO seems like a pretty straight forward player, nothing tricky. My image is probably pretty LAG.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t4445)
BB (t3525)
UTG (t6225)
UTG+1 (t28240)
MP1 (t2125)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t33925)</font>
MP3 (t14485)
<font color="#C00000">CO (t17220)</font>
Button (t3775)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t800.

Flop: (t2975) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t2400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t4800</font>, Hero ??.

I know the pf raise/call is questionable, but I don't want people coming over me pf unless it is a big raise.

Is betting out on this flop good/bad? What do you make of the min raise?

[Chief911]

I'm a fish, but I take a slightly different line.

I'd call his raise preflop.

I'd check/call a medium sized bet on that flop, and see where I'm at on the turn.

Nick

[TxDozerMan]

Just so I understand your thoughts, are you check calling here for pot control purposes, or to get overcards to put in money?

Edit: Facing a pot sized bet do you feel you need to improve to win?

I'm laying this one down.. Re-raise before flop and then re-raise after flop.. If he's a pretty straight forward player this could only mean one thing

[Indiana]

He's likely got an overpair and ur beat...dats poker. You got yourself into this predicament with poor preflop play.

Indy

[DireWolf]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm a fish, but I take a slightly different line.

I'd call his raise preflop.

I'd check/call a medium sized bet on that flop, and see where I'm at on the turn.

Nick

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this might be a nice time to check-call the flop, lead the turn.

[TxDozerMan]

I agree, I bet the flop to refine my range which preflop was AQs,AK,QQ-AA. I feel he will call with AK, raise with QQ-AA and fold the rest. The min-raise PF, along with min-raise of flop bet put my range squarely on AA/KK. Is it worth calling the $2400 more to stack him on a favorable turn?

[TxDozerMan]

Indiana, what part of my pre-flop play do you disagree with? The raise or calling the re-raise?

[Matador225]

I have no problem with the call but raising J 9 offsuit from middle position? Unless most of the players still to act are extremely weak-tight you have little chance of taking down the blinds. Your Lag image makes this even worse as many of your opponents may be willing to fight back with less than premium hands. To make things more difficult there is a good chance you won't have position on the caller (or in this case raiser) and even with top pair you can't feel very comfortable.

[John W]

I would have folded preflop. Small reraise = big hand/about 90% of the time. Your not losing much if anything by folding. So what, they know you raise it up with crap, you want action on your good hands anyway. Since your in the hand I would check call the flop and see what he does on the turn. Big bet on the turn I have to let go the monster. I get the feeling you were in bad shape.