Pocket Tens vs. Dan H. at Legends - Page 4

sirio11 · #31 08-31-2005, 06:01 AM

I agree with Jason here, calling PF is not an option with your stack, it's either fold or reraise all in.

With all the information you gave, previous hands with Dan, Dan's position and stack size (he knows he has several players behind him left to act), I think folding is the best option in this spot.

Flopzilla · #32 08-31-2005, 12:03 PM

You must make a stand; he will RR you everytime until you do.
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Thanks for the reply. Let me extrapolate. Twice previously I had folded to reraises by Dan.

locutus2002 · #33 08-31-2005, 12:12 PM

I don't see how you can eliminate AK as a possibility from DH's range of hands. If you don't think DH can play AK like this then you shouldn't call BTF (if he only has AA-JJ... which is not reasonable).

If hero folds he will have an M=7.7 and be in the BB, pretty close to push and fold mode after the blinds pass.

#34 08-31-2005, 12:16 PM

outcome please!!!

DonT77 · #35 08-31-2005, 12:53 PM

Maybe I'm a little crazy, but I play this hand differently than most (and lose more chips than most?).

I like the PFR and the call. You are calling 1200 into a pot that has 3950 in it already and DH has 6000 more chips to go after in case you flop the set so you are getting implied odds of 8.3:1 on what figures to be about a 7.5:1 proposition.

Okay, you wiffed the flop - now what? Some say push, some say check fold. I say how about betting 2000 into the 5150 pot. 2000 is 33% of Dan's remaining stack - so you are essentially 'putting him to a decision for all of his chips'. If he can call off 33% of his stack with a hand less than TT - then good for him, but most of the time I think you are getting him to fold anything but AA/KK/QQ here (and an unlikely AQ).

This strategy (IMO) gives you the best of both worlds, if you are ahead then you win a nice pot and if you are behind you still live to see another day as you are check-folding any call or raise.

Good idea or bleeding chips?

bruce · #36 08-31-2005, 01:31 PM

After Dan bet I studied the board quickly and pushed. I felt
Dan with my two previous folds and his tight image was capable
of making this reraise with a smaller pair than mine, AK, and
obviously AA, QQ, and JJ. Would he reraise with AQ or AJ? I don't know, but I'm guessing probably not. We'll forget the
Harrington 10% bluff factor, because I don't think that existed with him that evening. Based on his range of hands
I thought I had a legitimate chance of having the best hand.
I also thought he might even fold JJ with the Queen on board.
Dan studied the board for seemingly ever and folded. I never did see his hand. I won the pot, but I'm still not sure if I played the hand correctly. Boy that was one tough
hand for me to play.

Bruce

PrayingMantis · #37 08-31-2005, 01:35 PM

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still not sure if I played the hand correctly. Boy that was one tough
hand for me to play.

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IMHO you played the hand beautifully.

Flopzilla · #38 08-31-2005, 03:18 PM

YOUR PREVIOUS TWO FOLDS BOUGHT YOU FOLD EQUITY.

AWESOME. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

#39 08-31-2005, 03:33 PM

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I won the pot, but I'm still not sure if I played the hand correctly.

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Congrats on taking one down from a master.

My questions would be these. Did you already have it in your head to check raise when you checked? If yes, then what did you think he held? If no, then what do you think he held?

locutus2002 · #40 08-31-2005, 03:54 PM

That's great!

I can't imagine DH laying down JJ or AK getting ~4:1, so it looks like a smaller pair to me or air.