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Old 10-13-2005, 01:38 PM
phish phish is offline
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And I find that I enjoy it more, can win without playing my A-game (just yesterday, I called a raise in the SB w/ 62s, went on to win a large pot and laughed as some guy insulted obscenities at me), no financial stress, and I've found that w/ the level of competition at 30/60 and the number of hands you can get 4-tabling, I almost never have to book a losing day.

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How are you so good? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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All it really means is I play till I win. Remember, online 4-tabling, you can get almost as many hands in a long day as you could in a reasonable (but short) MONTH of casino play. And frankly, against the typical 30/60 competition, you should almost never have to book a losing month in live play.
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:50 PM
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...I've found that w/ the level of competition at 30/60 and the number of hands you can get 4-tabling, I almost never have to book a losing day.

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Is this reasonable? (I'll assume by "almost never" you mean 5% of the time or less.)

Even averaging 2000 hands a day as a solid winner, I would think that "almost never" booking losing days isn't feasible given the standard deviation a typical player would have in these games.

Or am I way off?
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:54 PM
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the 300/600 post you made recently where you said something to the effect of absolutely killing the game and being up 20k in about 45 minutes had me wondering how the reverse would be acccepted, just the implication of domination when the amount was around 30 big bets. now i'm not sure if it was based on the way the hands were going down in terms of table control or the money, but i thought of 30/60, and how often one can be up $1800 in 45 minutes at a given table. not that i wouldn't be elated about being up 20k in an exciting game, i just think if it involved that much of my emotion i would be putting too much at risk.

i think it's a great idea to play high enough often enough so that your regular game and its variance is totally acceptable, just not so high or so often that you can't be forced to care. not exciting enough, all your friends are playing high limits because you took a shot and now they're running well, or that sort of thing. if that could happen i think it's a bigger concern than whatever you might win or lose on a given day of playing.

it's seemed for a long time that you've had your head screwed on straight so i'm sure it will work out well.
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Old 10-13-2005, 01:58 PM
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I've found that w/ the level of competition at 30/60 and the number of hands you can get 4-tabling, I almost never have to book a losing day.


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huh? no variance in the 30/60 game?
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:01 PM
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...I've found that w/ the level of competition at 30/60 and the number of hands you can get 4-tabling, I almost never have to book a losing day.

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Is this reasonable? (I'll assume by "almost never" you mean 5% of the time or less.)

Even averaging 2000 hands a day as a solid winner, I would think that "almost never" booking losing days isn't feasible given the standard deviation a typical player would have in these games.

Or am I way off?

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I can't see how this is possible.
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:09 PM
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...I've found that w/ the level of competition at 30/60 and the number of hands you can get 4-tabling, I almost never have to book a losing day.

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Is this reasonable? (I'll assume by "almost never" you mean 5% of the time or less.)

Even averaging 2000 hands a day as a solid winner, I would think that "almost never" booking losing days isn't feasible given the standard deviation a typical player would have in these games.

Or am I way off?

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In a LONG day, I can get in almost twice as many hands. (remember I'm playing short often) And I'm just under 2bb/100 winner at the 30/60. Don't know what my std dev is and all that. run the math and let me know. But my losing day % is somewhere between 5-10% (don't know precisely but probably closer to the 5 than the 10)
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:15 PM
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...I've found that w/ the level of competition at 30/60 and the number of hands you can get 4-tabling, I almost never have to book a losing day.

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Is this reasonable? (I'll assume by "almost never" you mean 5% of the time or less.)

Even averaging 2000 hands a day as a solid winner, I would think that "almost never" booking losing days isn't feasible given the standard deviation a typical player would have in these games.

Or am I way off?

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In a LONG day, I can get in almost twice as many hands. (remember I'm playing short often) And I'm just under 2bb/100 winner at the 30/60. Don't know what my std dev is and all that. run the math and let me know. But my losing day % is somewhere between 5-10% (don't know precisely but probably closer to the 5 than the 10)

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you are clearly a poker god. nuff said.
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:18 PM
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...I've found that w/ the level of competition at 30/60 and the number of hands you can get 4-tabling, I almost never have to book a losing day.

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Is this reasonable? (I'll assume by "almost never" you mean 5% of the time or less.)

Even averaging 2000 hands a day as a solid winner, I would think that "almost never" booking losing days isn't feasible given the standard deviation a typical player would have in these games.

Or am I way off?

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You are right. But it's also highly possible that phish is playing very well and also running extremely well.
-James
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:21 PM
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In a LONG day, I can get in almost twice as many hands. (remember I'm playing short often) And I'm just under 2bb/100 winner at the 30/60. Don't know what my std dev is and all that. run the math and let me know. But my losing day % is somewhere between 5-10% (don't know precisely but probably closer to the 5 than the 10)

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I'm sure someone (other than me) can do the math quite easily. But why should anyone have to?

Why not just let us know how many hands and your standard deviation over said hands? (You've already given your approximate results over said number of hands.)

Or you could just give us the number of hands and someone (again, other than me) can estimate a standard deviation and work from there.
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Old 10-13-2005, 02:30 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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I just mentioned that august thing yesturday.

very sorry to hear about your bad day. i know i dont have the stomach for that variance...and everybody goes through some sick beats and amazing US$value swings in that game.

you're more than welcome and my NL tables though [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]....

seriously. you're a bigger man today than you were when you went to bed on monday.

Barron
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