PLO8 - First time ever and couldn't even show it

Wintermute · #1 11-08-2005, 06:21 PM

Yeah, to really break this down for you, here's the progression of events:

1) You got the best PLO8 hand possible.

2) You misplayed it.

3) You then posted about how you got unlucky.

That's pretty much as bad as it gets. But I got a laugh out of it, so you got that going for you, which is nice.

Mendacious · #2 11-08-2005, 09:10 PM

I was wondering when someone would say this. If you are mentally playing for an audience, you are not playing optimally.

hachkc · #3 11-08-2005, 10:48 PM

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I was wondering when someone would say this. If you are mentally playing for an audience, you are not playing optimally.

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No I wasn't playing for an audience but it was kind of like having a Royal but not showing it; I'm slightly more disciplined with my money. True, I lost money but I'm working on the assumption that I saved money by folding.

Wintermute · #4 11-08-2005, 10:52 PM

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I'm working on the assumption that I saved money by folding.

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This is a bad assumption.

TGoldman · #5 11-08-2005, 10:55 PM

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True, I lost money but I'm working on the assumption that I saved money by folding.

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Careful with this logic. The EV that you lose through making poor folds when your equity justifies otherwise is just as bad as the EV lost through making bad bets/calls/raises.

Edit: Perhaps the EV lost through bad folds is even worse when also considering metagame implications.

hachkc · #6 11-08-2005, 11:02 PM

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3) You then posted about how you got unlucky.

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It could be interpreted this way but it wasn't my goal. I was happy just to get the hand. Would have been nice if I won with it but no big deal. I'm more interested in the thoughts on the play which are pretty negative.

What would you put the bettor on out of curiousity?

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That's pretty much as bad as it gets. But I got a laugh out of it, so you got that going for you, which is nice.

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At least it wasn't a wothless post then.

emptyshell · #7 11-09-2005, 06:22 AM

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What would you put the bettor on out of curiousity?

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One of:

set, low draw + pair, low draw + no pair, 2 pair. You're only afraid of low draw + 2 pair or better here. Even against top set, you have 48% equity on the flop (you're backdoor flush draws or an ace gives you some high equity.)

On the turn, if you could put your opponent squarely on a set, you would just barely not have the equity to call (28% when you need 33%). If there's a small chance he has something less, you have an obvious call. If he somehow had QT for the straight, you'd have 25% equity.