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Old 11-01-2005, 10:34 PM
theBruiser500 theBruiser500 is offline
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Default 50/100 vs. GoG

He just sat down, he has 10k I have it covered. 4 handed, he raises I call in BB with red AJ. Flop is 6s 8s Js, I check he bets pot. I call. Turn is 9c, my plan? Check/raise flop, lead/call turn, lead/fold turn, c/r turn?

I would characterize GoG as TAG and he makes good decisions.
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 vs. GoG

Bet 3/4 pot and see what happens.
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:39 PM
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What does that mean Yeti? I doubt I'll be able to pick anything up or get a feel for what GoG is doing by "seeing what happens".
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 vs. GoG

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What does that mean Yeti? I doubt I'll be able to pick anything up or get a feel for what GoG is doing by "seeing what happens".

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Why are you sat with him then?
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Old 11-02-2005, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: 50/100 vs. GoG

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What does that mean Yeti? I doubt I'll be able to pick anything up or get a feel for what GoG is doing by "seeing what happens".


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Agreed if you have no hopes of reading him and are resigned to that fate, maybe its not a good spot for you.
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Old 11-01-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 vs. GoG

hrm. well, since you play a fair amount with GoG, does he make this move with one spade? how about no spades? i always get nervous about putting a fair amount of money in on a three flush board without a flush out..if a fourth spade comes you have to shut down....meh. i think you need to give more info because you have more info on how GoG plays
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 vs. GoG

Check-fold.
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 vs. GoG

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Check-fold.

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If you're going to check-call this flop, and check-fold a blank turn, why are you even calling preflop?
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Old 11-02-2005, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: 50/100 vs. GoG

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If you're going to check-call this flop, and check-fold a blank turn, why are you even calling preflop?

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Because some people like to play real poker, instead of easy, cookie cutter, cheap decision poker.

Just because you play AJ preflop doesn't mean you have to go broke with a jack, nor does it mean you have to get it all in. You play AJ because it might be the best hand or it might not. The fun part is figuring out when it is and when it isn't. This cookie cutter disease is getting crazy.
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Old 11-02-2005, 08:41 AM
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If you're going to check-call this flop, and check-fold a blank turn, why are you even calling preflop?

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Because some people like to play real poker, instead of easy, cookie cutter, cheap decision poker.

Just because you play AJ preflop doesn't mean you have to go broke with a jack, nor does it mean you have to get it all in. You play AJ because it might be the best hand or it might not. The fun part is figuring out when it is and when it isn't. This cookie cutter disease is getting crazy.

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Yawn.

And going 'check-call, check-fold' is playing real poker? How could check-folding this turn ever be good? Or, alternatively, we do 'the Bruiser', that is, 'check-call, check-call, check-fold'. Is that better?

You realise everyone of Bruiser's posts lately have exhibited weak play? Do you not think a smart player like GoG would be betting this turn with a very wide range of hands, of which Danny is in very good shape against?

This situation is not uncommon. I gave my standard line because it's the one that over time I have decided upon as the best option.

I interchange this with leading the flop, which may be better in this situation because Danny is obviously scared of GoG, and he may want to take control of the hand early on.

I have tried check-raising in this situation with poor results. Maybe it was just bad timing. It does open you up to getting shoved over on the flop, or outplayed on later streets, neither of which you can do a lot about. I prefer the other lines.
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