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Old 03-31-2005, 08:14 PM
Percula Percula is offline
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Default Re: Straddle? Spread Limit?

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Thanks for the replies.

Now one more: What is a Kill Game and usual strategy?

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Win a pot that sees a flop and you get the LEG, win the next hand with the LEG, and it is a kill. There are rules involved and can vary between rooms, ask if you are not sure. For example a normal rule would be in a 3/6 game that the pot you win with the LEG is 10xSB or $30.

Now that it is a KILL pot, the limit doubles. The SB and BB still post the normal, and you the killer posts 2xBB and acts last. So in a 3/6 game, its 6 to go instead of 3.

As for strategy, you will have to ask someone that wins more kill pots than I do. LOL
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Old 03-31-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Straddle? Spread Limit?

Kill pot doubles the limits for the table under certain circumstances. In hold'em, kill is usually active when a player wins 2 pots in a row. Sometimes there is a size-of-pot qualifier (i.e. if youwin $50 then steal the blinds, the next pot isn't killed).

When the pot is killed, the player with the kill button must put out a blind equal to the new big blind. All bets are now doubled for that hand.

Example: $3-6 with a full kill.

You've just won 2 pots in a row and you now have the KILL button in middle position. Even though it is not your blind, you need to put $6 on top of the KILL. The blinds still put out $1 and $3 but players must come in for $6. Bets after the flop double to $12. (NOTE: if you were in the blind, your kill bet counts as your blind).

Some games are half kill. In the case of a $2/4 table, 1/2 kill pots would be played 3-6.

In Omaha H/L, kill pots are usually the result of a scooped pot. In the 5-10 Full Kill game at the Mirage, you need to scoop the pot and have more than $75 in the pot. Happens a lot, like playing 10/20. In Stud 8b Kill is usully called Scoop.

And a note on straddling: don't do it unless you don't care about your money and/or you want to piss off the table. I've never seen it referred to as a good strategy in any 2+2 book...
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Old 03-31-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: Straddle? Spread Limit?

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And a note on straddling: don't do it unless you don't care about your money and/or you want to piss off the table. I've never seen it referred to as a good strategy in any 2+2 book...

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good enough for me
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Old 03-31-2005, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: Straddle? Spread Limit?

Oh yeah, that's the entire reason I've ever straddled - to piss off the table.

It's often quite effective, too, especially when you have a bunch of angry old rocks at the table who are otherwise hoping that the poker game won't interfere with their reading the newspaper.
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Old 04-01-2005, 04:09 AM
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And a note on straddling: don't do it unless you don't care about your money and/or you want to piss off the table. I've never seen it referred to as a good strategy in any 2+2 book...

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good enough for me

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*CLASSIC*
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Old 04-01-2005, 04:17 AM
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And a note on straddling: don't do it unless you don't care about your money and/or you want to piss off the table. I've never seen it referred to as a good strategy in any 2+2 book...

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good enough for me

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*CLASSIC*

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Old 04-01-2005, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: Straddle? Spread Limit?

When someone else has straddled, and no one else has called before you, it's generally best to either fold or raise. Even more so than when there isn't a straddle since when there is a straddle there is more money already in the pot than usual.

Many players who straddle will almost always raise when it gets to them, no matter what they have.

I've been in games where 3 wild players would straddle whenever they had a chance. So that in a 2-5 spread limit game with one $2 blind there would be the $2 blind, then straddles of $7, $12, $17. Then one or two of the straddlers would raise - to see the flop, you'd sometimes have to put in $27, then only be able to bet $5 max in any round of betting. That is called a wild game
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Old 04-02-2005, 12:07 AM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default Straddle, re-straddle, and double-re-straddle

Straddle - do this when you are good and drunk. It's going to be "live" here in vegas, which means it's another blind, and you can pointlessly jack it up some more when it comes to you by raising yourself again. You're basically buying last action, and the right to make it three bets before the flop, no matter what.

re-straddle - do this when the guy on your right straddles. It's not live, but it does attain the goal of pointlessly jacking up the pot some more if the straddler doesn't reraise himself.

Double-re-straddle. Do this after your 12th redbull and vodka at MGM in the 6-12 game when there are two Magoo looking las vegas dealers who also post on 2+2 in your game who have already straddled and re-straddled.

Open-cap - do this when it's straddled, re-straddled, and double-re-straddled and you are the first one to act who doesn't have money in the pot already and you have pocket aces.*

al

* all this actually happened last monday night at MGM on their opening night! 2+2=Super-Magoo!
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Old 04-02-2005, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: Straddle, re-straddle, and double-re-straddle

Aye, this all happened.

We opened a 6/12 game up with 3 of us and 4 or 5 other guys that showed up. Well I start UTG. I live straddle to 12.

Al on my left raises immediately to 18. 4 calls, I call to "Defend my straddle BLIND!" (well thats what I told the table.
Flop 10 9 7 rainbow. I check, al bets, 2 calls, I call.
Turn 6, I check, Al checks, MP bets out 12, I checkraise to 24 and said I raise BLIND. Al folds, MP calls.
River 2. I bet 12, MP calls.

Photoc shows 8 2 offsuit for 10 high straight. MP angrilly tosses cards and says..."how the F do you play that [censored]". I just shrug and said...I played blind!
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