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Old 08-05-2005, 07:23 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Quiz: 4th Broadway on River and SB Wakes Up 1/2 6Max

PTY 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

SB 20.5/2.3 over 25 hands and is in the green. I hadn't noticed him getting out of line on anything yet.
UTG is a Fish 44/0

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: (7.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero...

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

What would you do, Call or Fold?
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: Quiz: 4th Broadway on River and SB Wakes Up 1/2 6Max

Not overcall
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: Quiz: 4th Broadway on River and SB Wakes Up 1/2 6Max

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Not overcall

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Good point k, but actually, I really wasn't even thinking about that, at least not consciously, when I played the hand or reviewed it. UTG looks Fishy, 44/0 after 18 hands. I didn't put that in the OP, but I went back and added it just now.
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Quiz: 4th Broadway on River and SB Wakes Up 1/2 6Max

Fold to the overcall.

Im a bit LAG preF short but I don't like you limp. If UTG is fishy raising isolates and potentail knocks out SB preF.
If UTG was a good player maybe I call, but what kind of good player limps UTG.

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Old 08-05-2005, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: Quiz: 4th Broadway on River and SB Wakes Up 1/2 6Max

UTG the Fish had K9 for middle pair. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 08-05-2005, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Quiz: 4th Broadway on River and SB Wakes Up 1/2 6Max

Thus why youd want to isolate [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 08-06-2005, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: Quiz: 4th Broadway on River and SB Wakes Up 1/2 6Max

Your kicker doesn't play, which weakens your hand even more. That combined with the fact that you're overcalling (even if you're overcalling a fish, your hand isn't too strong) make me chuck this.
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Old 08-06-2005, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: Quiz: 4th Broadway on River and SB Wakes Up 1/2 6Max

I don't understand why so many people are fearing an overcall. We are chopping or have the overcaller beat 95% of the time. A T is raising the river 100% of the time. The other 5% is when they catch a raggy 2 pair against us.
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Old 08-06-2005, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: Quiz: 4th Broadway on River and SB Wakes Up 1/2 6Max

I didn't think the overcaller was a big factor in this hand. Maybe I should have given more weight to that, but I just felt like he was playing like a calling station.

The crux of the matter it seemed to me was that SB bet out on the river. He correctly surmised that I would have checked this river through even though I had bet every other street.

I folded the river to one bet even though I was getting 9:1 to call. It was a good fold. SB had QJ and made two pair on the river.
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Old 08-06-2005, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: Quiz: 4th Broadway on River and SB Wakes Up 1/2 6Max

*grunch*
with 2 pair I'd call this down I don't think we're good offten enough here with a "in line" player waking up on this river and a call which isn't big given the caller but still means we have to beat 2 hands
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