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#41
10-03-2005, 01:06 AM
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Re: Stuff that makes you pause and reflect on everything
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...So, it's not something that really impacts me directly. [/ QUOTE ] El D, It did impact you directly. And it seems to have caused a lot of guys here to pour out things not usually seen around this board. (that's not a bad thing) So, in a way, it's impacted them directly. While I was watching all the Katrina and Rita coverage, I was thinking how that was impacting this country. And how, not so long ago, the tsunami wiped out all those people. The tsunami damage and death toll can't ever be known. Only guessed at. But, since it wasn't "in our own backyard," most of us read it, thought, "Sad," and we went on our way. Katrina and Rita were in our backyard. Thousands and thousands of us around the country were impacted. We know/knew people there. Many of us have relatives there. Many of us have been there for business or pleasure. So we "related." What I'm getting at is how tenuous life is. Tragedy strikes anywhere, anytime, and no distinction is made as to who gets the dirty end of the stick. Over the years I've had a couple of close friends and a few relatives who were taken by really weird events. It's never easy to handle. It can get you thinking seriously about a lot of things you usually don't. I appreciate all of you who've posted your feelings. I thank you for letting me see that you're not all "a buncha dumass, beer-chuggin', card playin', p***y chasin', hounds." [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Now I'm draggin' my boney old ass off to bed. Good nite and God bless. 
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#42
10-03-2005, 01:24 AM
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Re: Stuff that makes you pause and reflect on everything
The summer before my senior year of high school, I was in TN working with Habitat For Humanity as a community service project for my school, a small, close-knit all-boys Catholic high school in the Bronx. One day, after we'd come back to the cabin we were living in, before dinner started, the teacher who was there organizing the trip got us all together in the eating area and told us that he had just received a call from another teacher telling him that our classmate and a good friend of mine had killed himself the night before. No one was exactly sure what had triggered it, but we knew that he had fought bouts of depression and that there were some family issues at home. I don't think I've been in a more silent before or since then.
A few months later, right after Thanksgiving, our principal gathered everyone in my class in our auditorium, which we did once a week anyway, but it wasn't scheduled for that day. He announced to us that another classmate, and a good friend of mine, had killed himself. This was especially unexpected because he (at least as far as anyone knew) wasn't depressed, didn't have any family problems, and as a matter of fact, had just begun plans to start a band with some friends of his that they wanted to treat very seriously and make a long-term project. These two events in my life are easily the two most significant and have, more than anything else, helped me realize just how fragile our lives really are and how fortunate I am that I'm not in a place of such deep despair as these two friends of mine were.
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#43
10-03-2005, 01:35 AM
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Then these kids grab the original kid who confronted them and bring them 10 feet away and pull out 2 9mm hand guns and put on to his head and say "not another word outa you or we'll shoot everyone down". Needless to say he shut up and they soon left. For the rest of the night we were left thinking how bad things could have gotten. [/ QUOTE ] What really sucks about this is that if you were to report these guys they would likely only get a couple of months in jail. Yet, if someone gets caught using crack three times they go to jail for at least five years.
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#44
10-03-2005, 01:47 AM
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When these things do happen to someone I know, it makes me realize that I often take too much for granted and often don't appreciate what I have as much as I should. As you say, the shock does wear off, and I usually fall back into the same old attitudes. [/ QUOTE ] You haven't had someone very close to you die yet? Family member or bud? Just wondering... When that starts happening, and it tends to come in waves it seems, it will really rock your world. Especially the 'unexpected' deaths. b
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#45
10-03-2005, 01:47 AM
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Re: Stuff that makes you pause and reflect on everything
It crossed my mind to call the police after this happened but for some reason I had this image of one of them or their drug dealing friends doing something to our friends. These kids have been on our city's most wanted lists on and off and they are known for having no brains so I just let it go really and hope to never see them again. I would hate for them to do something to my friend who confronted them after it was me who called the police.
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#46
10-03-2005, 02:02 AM
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Re: Stuff that makes you pause and reflect on everything
After a year of law school, I decided it wasn't for me. So I left, and went to work at an insurance company. I was doing all right, but I would sometimes second-guess myself. Especially when the class that I was part of graduated with their shiny new law degrees.
Then, a year or so after their graduation, one of the class was killed in an motor vehicle accident. I wasn't close to him, we were acquaintances, he seemed like a nice guy. But I never again second-guessed that decision. You can't tell where the road not taken may have lead you, all you can do is make the best life you can from wherever you happen to be.
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#47
10-03-2005, 02:32 AM
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Re: Stuff that makes you pause and reflect on everything
VISCOME, ROBERT JOSEPH - Robert Joseph Viscome died April 30, 2002 at the Westchester County Medical Center as a result of a tragic circumstances on April 23, 2002.
Circumstances surrounding the death of Robert Viscome El D, before you read this artice: David Porzio was in the class below me at rye county day. we hung out sometimes and played hockey together. John Porzio was my brother's best friend along w/ two or 3 other guys. THeir whole family was very close with mine...johnny came to our house frequenty on fridays for Shabbot dinner. robbie (robert viscome) was a friend of devin's (my brother). this event changed his life. period. he was into rap at the time and wrote a song about it, i dont know how to post it but the song is called Robbie V. it was played frequently in harrison and the surrouding neighborhood for a long time. i still listen to it and occasionally cry thinking of what happened. the events surrounding Robbie V's untimely death teach that responsibility as teens, parents, onlookers, and friends is of greater import than it currnetly has in today's society. my brother's song: "to my man robbie v, I remember how we used to be/ could look me/right in the eye and speak to truth to me-cause you were sincere, through your heart is where the truth would appear and now its hard without you livin here, i know you god for rap. your parents hurtin but dont worry kid i got they back, your my boy for cetain thats why i dropped this track, forget all of these cats there's a lot they lack/ they left you on the ground bleedin'/and thats the reason your with god now asound sleepin/ i promise you if i was there you'd be around speakin/ there's a place for you in my heart, i found deep in/ i pray you miss me/ show me where im headed kid i take you wit me/we was boys like that, so now im askin god how he's takin my boy like that but through my pen rob im givin your voice back. to my man robbie v, dont you 'member how we used to be/sittin watch me producin beats/with the illest of smirks which show you lovin the sound/shits deep how you six feet under the ground?/ now im thinkin it hurts to know you leavin/ but whats makin this worse is how you stopped breathin/that day in the church you saw your pops greavin/you was one of the best kid, tops even/ shut the interstate have my chest thumpin/now what does that say other than you meant somethin/you were deeper than words and not just side-spoken/ i can't sleep when it hurts sit with my eyes open, BUT i rise to the test/ even though you gone kid i feel you changed our lives for the best 'cause you livin within all of us, dwellin inside, im FEELIN it, NOW i raise my L in the sky/ to my man robbie v yo' this song is dedicated to this kid in the sky/ you felt related when you looked in his eye/god how much i hate it when you took him i cried/to my man robbie v kid you shouldn't of died you told me you was on what i got/loved it when i hit you off of the top/gave me pounds beggin start from the top/ you aint around think i hardly forgot?/damn son, thats the day my heart'll just stop/ so until we meet again nothings stoppin our love/ we feelin safer now with you watchin above/'cause you aint on court dont mean you left the game/when i blow up i promise kid i wont forget your name to my man robbie v, rest in peace kid. sorry for the long post, but it felt good to write. i know that whole song by heart. i get goosebumps writing it. i hope this story and the song touch you in some way el D b/c its very similar to the tragic events you described...but w/o the guns. -Barron
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#50
10-03-2005, 03:20 AM
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Re: Stuff that makes you pause and reflect on everything
My younger brother's best friend (who I was also pretty close to) was on a soccer team with him. There was a mid seasson state wide tournament, and I watched their team win 1st place in a close game. Right after we got home, we got a call and heard my brother's best friend died when his car hit a moose and he went throught the windshield. We left just a 20 seconds ahead of him on the same highway; he was right behind us.
We visited his family and his body the next day at the hospital and it was really wierd, he was on a ventillater but technically dead because he was an organ donor.
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