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Old 11-15-2005, 09:39 PM
brick brick is offline
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No reads because I'm been reviewing hands for a friend.
Help me give him good advise.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J h, Q d. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero calls, UTG+1 (poster) checks, 4 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 8 s, 3 h, T h (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 2 h (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 2 d (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:42 PM
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Fold preflop.

On the flop, you have a GSD, 1 overcard, and a non-nut BDFD. I check and wait for the action.

There isn't much to discuss here. You should know the answers to this if you're being asked for advice.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:50 PM
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Grunch

I do not like an EP call with QJo even with the extra poster.

As played, on the flop we have a GSSD, 2 OC's and a BDFD. There are enough outs to c/c here but not lead (I may not be making sense, it is very late here!)

c/c on the turn is gOOt

Check on the river is good (assuming a c/f if bet into)

I'm going to bed!
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:53 PM
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I agree that folding pre-flop is correct, even with the poster. There is just too much unknown to enter with a marginal hand.
On the flop we have 2 overcards. And the other outs you mentioned. About 10 outs + fold equity. I'd say betting is ok. Probably doesn't matter much.

And calling the turn is correct given the flush draw.
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Old 11-15-2005, 10:02 PM
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I check fold the flop. Small pot.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:07 PM
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Oops... 2 OC is right. But you severely overestimate their worth. We can't count them as full outs. Maybe 1.5 each. We have maybe 8 outs on this flop - not enough to be pushing.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:13 PM
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Fold preflop. The rest is standard.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:24 PM
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fold preflop

as you played it check/call the flop

as you played it check/fold the turn, you dont have the outs to draw to the dirty 9 and your ocs are likely not enough.

river is read dependent.... against most i check fold here, if he bets out a lot of flush draws and ocs maybe consider a river pure bluff.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:25 PM
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This is really bad. Hero should fold preflop, should check/fold the flop, and should definitely fold the turn.

Oops, I missed the flush draw on the turn. I guess calling the turn is okay. But I think betting this flop 3-handed is major spewing.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:44 PM
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Mistakes? As in, "did I make any mistakes?" (Oops, this is your friend's hand, right? Replace all the "you"s with "your friend"s.)

Preflop: ugh, fold.

Flop: ugh, check/fold. You've got, maybe, 6 outs here, nowhere near the 8 or 10 other people have quoted.

Turn: ugh, check/fold, again. Yeah, you've improved to a flush draw...a one-card, fourth-nut flush draw. It's going to cost you at least 2 bets to win 5, and you're not good 1 time in 3.

River: well, you got this one right, but only because Villan decided that you just woke up from your heroin dream and would fold if he bet. Zoiks.

Now, feel free to tell us how Villan had 97o and YHIG....
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