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Old 07-26-2005, 01:00 AM
PorscheNGuns PorscheNGuns is offline
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Default busted out on this hand, thoughts?

Party's Super Weekday, ~400 of 1100 players left. Ive got a low stack, about 1400, and the blinds are 50/100. Most of the table has about 2000-4000.

I pick up TT in the middle position and call preflop. An LP with a 3500 stack raises to 500. I put him on AK and figured my best chance was to see the flop, and with no Ace or King I would push. Everyone else folded preflop.

Flop came Q22 and so I pushed, he calls and shows AA and rags off for the win.

In retrospect I think I should have folded preflop once he raised to only 500 and should have read him for JJ-AA. (I now think he probably would have simply pushed with AK)

Thoughts?

-Matt
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:02 AM
DemonDeac DemonDeac is offline
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Default Re: busted out on this hand, thoughts?

dont be results oriented

the tough decision shoulda come when u raised(you shoulda raised) preflop and got reraised. tought beat
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:06 AM
PorscheNGuns PorscheNGuns is offline
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Default Re: busted out on this hand, thoughts?

How much do you think I should have raised and why? Again, stack size was about 1400 and blinds were 50/100.

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-Matt
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:09 AM
DemonDeac DemonDeac is offline
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Default Re: busted out on this hand, thoughts?

well. im prolly just gonna open push. if i didnt, id raise to the standard 300 and see what develops.

to be honest, my brain is fried right now and i dont know what to think. im prolly going broke on this hand too
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: busted out on this hand, thoughts?

Honestly, I would have played the exact same way you did on instinct alone. However, this is probably why I'm an above average player but not a great one.
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:32 AM
Dave D Dave D is offline
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Default Re: busted out on this hand, thoughts?

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Party's Super Weekday, ~400 of 1100 players left. Ive got a low stack, about 1400, and the blinds are 50/100. Most of the table has about 2000-4000.

I pick up TT in the middle position and call preflop. An LP with a 3500 stack raises to 500. I put him on AK and figured my best chance was to see the flop, and with no Ace or King I would push. Everyone else folded preflop.

Flop came Q22 and so I pushed, he calls and shows AA and rags off for the win.

In retrospect I think I should have folded preflop once he raised to only 500 and should have read him for JJ-AA. (I now think he probably would have simply pushed with AK)

Thoughts?

-Matt

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I would only consider myself a low stack here relative to the other stacks, but I wouldn't worry about being a low stack relative to the rest of the tournament. 14 BBs is more than enough, so you're not desperate.


This is clearly either a push or a fold preflop for me. It seems like by limping you were attempting to trap someone. If that's your goal, you gotta push here.

I would have raised to 400 under normal circumstances, and though difficult, probably would have folded to most likely his raise to put me all in. But it's a tough laydown. You can still fold and have 10 BBs, which is fine.
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: busted out on this hand, thoughts?

With the size of your stack TT is a big hand pre-flop and you have to play it as such. You have to expect that if you limp you're going to get raised because that happens more often then not in Supers at this blind level. I would open for a raise of 3-4XBB. If re-raised it will be for all your chips (either pre-flop or you'll be pot committed and get them in on the flop). You'll probably have correct odds to call in that situation.

Another point, I wouldn't ever put my opponent on a single hand like AK. You've got to put him on a range of hands and measure the strength of your hand versus that range.

Given how you played it (limp calling pre-flop) I would have either pushed the flop or checked it and called his push. Probably the former given the stack sizes as check calling seems to give him good odds with two overs but I haven't quite done all the math.
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