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Old 12-28-2005, 05:48 PM
kyro kyro is offline
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Default Re: $22: push any two from SB here?

Um. Am I reading this right? You want to push 12BB into an 11BB stack with T5? At a $22.

And there are people here agreeing with you? Wow.
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: $22: push any two from SB here?

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Um. Am I reading this right? You want to push 12BB into an 11BB stack with T5? At a $22.

And there are people here agreeing with you? Wow.

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Well, I didn't say I WANT to. I actually folded, but was curious so I ran it through SNGPT and was surprised at the results, so opened it up for discussion.

I'm not sure what I think yet. It completely depends on villain's range, and whether I want to put a dent in my ultra-tight table image that could come back to haunt me when the blinds are more tasty.
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: $22: push any two from SB here?

This is a terrible push. Seriously. The slight EV you might be gaining by pushing is nothing compared to the EV you hold over the other players when you have 10BB. Just play poker and don't start getting desperate when you have a lot of chips.
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Old 12-28-2005, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: $22: push any two from SB here?

OP,

Wow, you're surely abusing SNGPT b/c there's no way it indicates a push any two here.

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Old 12-28-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: $22: push any two from SB here?

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OP,

Wow, you're surely abusing SNGPT b/c there's no way it indicates a push any two here.

Yugoslav

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Half the forum is apparently abusing it.
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Old 12-28-2005, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: $22: push any two from SB here?

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OP,

Wow, you're surely abusing SNGPT b/c there's no way it indicates a push any two here.

Yugoslav

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Have you run the numbers?
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Old 12-28-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: $22: push any two from SB here?

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OP,

Wow, you're surely abusing SNGPT b/c there's no way it indicates a push any two here.

Yugoslav

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Have you run the numbers?

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For this exact situation? Nope....I'm at work anyway right now and can't unless I wanna do it old school non-SNGPT style, which I surely don't.

I checked with my magic forumbot 8 ball and it says 'FOLD, MOERON'.....so, that's good enuf for me.

Yugoslav
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Old 12-28-2005, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: $22: push any two from SB here?

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OP,

Wow, you're surely abusing SNGPT b/c there's no way it indicates a push any two here.

Yugoslav

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Have you run the numbers?

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For this exact situation? Nope....I'm at work anyway right now and can't unless I wanna do it old school non-SNGPT style, which I surely don't.

I checked with my magic forumbot 8 ball and it says 'FOLD, MOERON'.....so, that's good enuf for me.

Yugoslav

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Your 8-ball called you a moron and couldn't even spell it right? Oh, the irony!

I hear you, seems like an easy fold to me too, which is why I was surprised by the SNGPT results.
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Old 12-28-2005, 06:14 PM
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I just ran this with HERO holding 72o and it's still +$EV with villain at a "loose" preset range.
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: $22: push any two from SB here?

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Um. Am I reading this right? You want to push 12BB into an 11BB stack with T5? At a $22.

And there are people here agreeing with you? Wow.

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You really think that's crazy? If I have a tight image and think villain is fairly tight I do this every time. This being a $22 and the BB having a similar size stack is more of an argument to push rather than fold.

At a higher buy-in I would lean towards folding.

If the big blind had a much smaller or much larger stack I would lean towards folding.

Am I way off base here?
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