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#31
12-15-2005, 01:14 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Much better that we quabble about some events in 2003 that we have discussed before. [/ QUOTE ] The event was yesterday and that had not yet been discussed. [/ QUOTE ] No, the speech was just a pretext for everybody to restate their already firmly established opinions about whether Bush lied and manipulated or not. 
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#32
12-15-2005, 01:20 PM
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My original suggestion stands. Package the evidence. Take it to a grand jury. Get an indictment. Prosecute or impeach. Or shut up about it. [/ QUOTE ] If this is your attitude toward discussion of issues that you don't happen to agree with then I very respectfully submit that a Politics forum might not be the place you spend your time.
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#33
12-15-2005, 01:21 PM
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No, the speech was just a pretext for everybody to restate their already firmly established opinions about whether Bush lied and manipulated or not. [/ QUOTE ] Bush taking yet another opportunity to broadcast his firmly established opinions is news and deserves comment else we only here one biased side of the equation.
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#34
12-15-2005, 01:22 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Oh yes, we are so concerned over the 'freedom' of brown people we have never met who live half a world away. [/ QUOTE ] Funny thing about which Presidents care about people based on their skin color: Bush41: Freed the brown people in Panama from a dictator. Bush41: Freed the brown people of Kuwait from an invading dictator. Bush41: Moved into Somalia to defend black people. Clinton: Abandoned the black people in Somalia. Clinton: Defended the white people in Bosnia. Bush43: Brought democracy to the brown people in Afghanistan. Bush43: Brought democracy to the brown people in Iraq. It seems that the Bush family cares about people, regardless of their skin color. Kudos to the Bush family. [/ QUOTE ] I think this thread is big enough for two discussions. Clinton is the first president since WW2 to bomb white people. You can't have a democracy under a foreign occupation with a constitution written by appointees of the conquerer.
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#35
12-15-2005, 01:23 PM
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What evidence is their that Iraq or any of it's agencies have any links to 9/11. I'm sure they did everything in their power to prevent it. Yeah, right. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- France didn't try to prevent 9-11 either...BOMB THEM!!!
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#36
12-15-2005, 01:24 PM
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[ QUOTE ] My original suggestion stands. Package the evidence. Take it to a grand jury. Get an indictment. Prosecute or impeach. Or shut up about it. [/ QUOTE ] If this is your attitude toward discussion of issues that you don't happen to agree with then I very respectfully submit that a Politics forum might not be the place you spend your time. [/ QUOTE ] He has a point. When they have the goods on you, the opponents go for impeachment. They got the goods on Nixon and he resigned rather than be impeached. They got the goods on Clinton and he was impeached. If they really had any goods on Bush, he would be impeached in a heartbeat. But the goods are not there, just biased speculation.
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#37
12-15-2005, 01:27 PM
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This assumes that the only appropriate responses are impeachment or ignore. That just isn't/shouldn't be true.
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#38
12-15-2005, 01:30 PM
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You can't have a democracy under a foreign occupation with a constitution written by appointees of the conquerer. [/ QUOTE ] I guess you missed all the purple fingers from all the elections. The people elected the writers of the new constitution. But its more fun to pretend that we imposed a constitution on the people. Today is the third election in Iraq this year, it would have been so much easier to impose our will than to have them have so many elections. Damn that Bush and his insistance on actual democracy every step of the way.
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#39
12-15-2005, 01:43 PM
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The Myth of the Purple Finger:
An Iraqi government that can't secure Iraq. An American army doing the bidding of a Shia-dominated government. Hell of a plan. "I believed -- and I said from the podium -- that as Iraqis became more politically empowered, the insurgency would become politically weakened," said Dan Senor, a top Bremer adviser. "That hasn't happened. The political process has been resilient -- and so has the insurgency."
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