The dreaded Raise/Fold to 3-bet

LoaferGee12 · #1 12-11-2005, 02:25 AM

I rarely ever do this, but it seemed like my only option here. New to Party + just sat down = no reads.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, CO calls, 1 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, CO folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG folds, SB 3-bets, Hero folds.

#2 12-11-2005, 02:45 AM

not sure i like lots of people would do this with a ten too doesnt always mean 3 spades. Also it doesnt look like he has a flush i doubt he woldve 3bet flop? Id call down if youa re folding to a 3bet

deepsquat · #3 12-11-2005, 02:53 AM

please dont do this again.

Im torn between capping the flop or keeping UTG in with possibly a weakish spade.

Just call down after the turn 3bet. This could be QJ KsQ etc

LoaferGee12 · #4 12-11-2005, 03:05 AM

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Just call down after the turn 3bet. This could be QJ KsQ etc

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No, it really couldn't. Not unless this guy is a LAG.

deepsquat · #5 12-11-2005, 03:13 AM

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Just call down after the turn 3bet. This could be QJ KsQ etc

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No, it really couldn't. Not unless this guy is a LAG.

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your joking right?

LoaferGee12 · #6 12-11-2005, 03:26 AM

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Just call down after the turn 3bet. This could be QJ KsQ etc

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No, it really couldn't. Not unless this guy is a LAG.

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your joking right?

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No. I've shown plenty of aggression and he's still fighting back on an extremelmy coordinated board.

deepsquat · #7 12-11-2005, 03:31 AM

you have no read, you cant fold this imo. What limit is this?

SUfan5 · #8 12-11-2005, 03:45 AM

Call down. Don't think that you can be sure the SB has a flush.

LoaferGee12 · #9 12-11-2005, 03:46 AM

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you have no read, you cant fold this imo. What limit is this?

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1/2. While I agree that I may have needed a call-down here, I really don't think KQ/QJ are in his range. I think straight is the only other possibility.

deepsquat · #10 12-11-2005, 03:50 AM

dude, hes an unknown, you have no idea what his range is. He could be 65/0 and limping JJ or a postflop LAG going beserk with Ks.

This is 1/2, folding this is a crime.