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Old 12-09-2005, 04:10 PM
dogzilla dogzilla is offline
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Default QT button overplay?

Villan is 28/13/2.2 after 160 hnd
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, T.
2 folds, CO raises, hero 3-bets, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 7, 9, J (2 players)
CO bets, hero raises, CO 3-bets, hero caps, CO calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 3 (2 players)
CO bets, hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) J (2 players)
CO bets, hero folds.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

Did I take it too far? starting where?
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:17 PM
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Default Re: QT button overplay?

starting preflop where you didn't fold.
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: QT button overplay?

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starting preflop where you didn't fold.

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And continuing on the flop where you capped.
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: QT button overplay?

Would i ever play this? For instance if villain had a higher vpsp?
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:21 PM
ANY2CARDZ ANY2CARDZ is offline
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Default Re: QT button overplay?

Easy fold preflop.
On the flop I like the riase but the cap is uncalled for. With say 11 outs at best it doesnt make sense to cap when your most likely against top pair. Turn is fine.
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: QT button overplay?

Fold preflop unless your QT is suited, and even then it's probably a preflop fold. How does he play postflop and what's his WTSD? Unless he's willing to laydown good ace high UI hands (and a typical player isn't) your queen high has rotten showdown value. And a player with 13 % PFR doesn't steal nearly enough; this increases the chance that you're dominated. Fold, fold, fold. You shouldn't do this with KT and it's marginal with KJ.

Your flop play is fine, cap is questionable but not bad. Turn is standard, river is standard.
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: QT button overplay?

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Would i ever play this? For instance if villain had a higher vpsp?

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not sure what vpsp is, but if this guy steals blinds a ridiculous amount like >50% you done good preflop, but the flop is still peter north style spewage.
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:29 PM
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If villain's got a VPIP of at least 30, maybe you can think about 3-betting but that assumes you can outplay him postflop. I wouldn't do this against a 30/20, though.
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: QT button overplay?

3 betting QTo after a 13% PFR is a mistake. However if he was a 20+% PFR and had a around 35% ATSB then the 3 bet is fine I think. Postflop, eh. He bets into you after you were the aggressor preflop, meaning he has a monster or he has like, a pair of tens. I really don't think the way you played it postflop is awful.
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