20/40 against sfer

jason_t · #1 08-29-2005, 04:09 AM

Bay 101 20/40

I open UTG with AKo, folded to Dave who 3-bets in the SB. The BB folds, I 4-bet and Dave calls.

Flop: 223r
Check, bet, call.

Turn: 3
Check, bet, call.

River: 9
Check, check.

krubban · #2 08-29-2005, 04:11 AM

Looks fine to me, you won't push him off a pair with that board.

aK13 · #3 08-29-2005, 04:15 AM

I woulda checked thru the turn?

Whats with this 20/40 stuff?

shant · #4 08-29-2005, 04:31 AM

I'm a little afraid of getting checkraised on the turn. On this board, he's going to showdown all the hands in his 3-betting range unless he's donking around. I think it's better to check the turn and call a river bet.

Edit: Whoever convinced you to play 20/40 is rad.

Evan · #5 08-29-2005, 05:21 AM

Did you think at all about what Dave has here when he 3 bets you?

Evan · #6 08-29-2005, 05:22 AM

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I think it's better to check the turn and call a river bet.

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I think this is a good way to get owned by good players.

jgorham · #7 08-29-2005, 05:23 AM

Dave 3bet your UTG raise from the small blind. I really this his hand range here includes only big A's and pocket pairs. I think he would fold KQ there (if this is incorrect, feel free to think less of me as a person). As such a turn bet really has no value here. I would check the turn and hope you got to check the river as well, as you really would have to fold to a checkraise.

Evan · #8 08-29-2005, 05:25 AM

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I really this his hand range here includes only big A's and pocket pairs.

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AK, AKs, JJ+ imo.

shant · #9 08-29-2005, 05:28 AM

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I really this his hand range here includes only big A's and pocket pairs.

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AK, AKs, JJ+ imo.

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Right, so I guess if the turn is checked through, sfer is checking and planning to call on the river. He won't bet AK, so we should be folding to a river bet? Isn't there any level of he knows I know he knows going on where sfer will bet the river with AK if Jason checks the turn?

jgorham · #10 08-29-2005, 05:47 AM

Thats why its hard to play against good players. On the river you gotta figure that Dave knows exactly what 2 cards Jason has (if the turn is checked through), and therefore is going to bet 100% of the time as AK has nothing to lose. So there are 18 combos of hands Jason loses to, and 9 that he ties with. So he is getting 18 to 4.5 on his money, or 4 to 1. Assuming Jason checked the turn, he would be getting 5.5 to 1 on his money, so its a call.