A situation I have difficulty with

teajay · #1 03-03-2005, 09:18 PM

How did I play this hand?
The situation I have some difficulty with is when the flop pairs after I have raised, I always question myself.

Cheers,
Travis

*edit* - no reads

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (8.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (14.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

Shillx · #2 03-03-2005, 09:24 PM

Usually the villian will have a 3 in this spot. If I were the BB, I might play something like AK this way. Notice that the board is drawless on the turn, so I don't really mind it getting checked though. Any non-ace hand has just 2 outs against me (or is drawing dead). Having said that, the villian will usually be holding a 3 in this spot given that he check/raised both you and a caller.

Brad

LoaferGee12 · #3 03-03-2005, 09:28 PM

Hard to fold but you pretty much never win here unless the BB is a LAG or something. I probably can't resist calling but I truly think folding is the better play here.

jaxUp · #4 03-03-2005, 09:31 PM

I think it seems kind of silly to not bet the turn here Shill, wouldn't we want a value bet here? That said, do you think we could fold outright to the turn C/R?

Shillx · #5 03-03-2005, 09:32 PM

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I think it seems kind of silly to not bet the turn here Shill, wouldn't we want a value bet here? That said, do you think we could fold outright to the turn C/R?

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I never said that I wouldn't bet the turn. I was saying that a wise BB might play Ax this way. I think we are in bad shape though against a typical player who check/raises us on the turn in a protected pot.

Brad

Revid · #6 03-03-2005, 09:39 PM

Shill nailed it. I don't think there is a hand that BB has that you can beat (he either has a three or an ace that outkicks you). I think he has a BB hand like 34s, even though you raised preflop and he should have folded you only have 2 outs (2 aces, maybe only one if button has one).

I think you fold this when raised on the turn, especially with the button still to act behind you.

gvibes · #7 03-03-2005, 11:41 PM

Does anyone check this flop 6-handed?

Isura · #8 03-04-2005, 12:00 AM

I play it the same way against most opponents. When the flop is paired (especially with low cards) it is usually a good for overcards since it's less likely someone has a pair.