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Old 11-09-2005, 01:24 AM
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Villain's 2nd hand at the table, he has $99, I cover.
$100 NL Hero is dealt 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Villain calls, 2 more calls, 3 folds to me, I complete, BB checks.
$5 FLOP 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I lead for $5, BB folds, Villain raises to $15, 2 folds to me, Hero.....?????????
I have a gut shot and a flush draw 12 outs twice so I am a small dog... does a push make sense here?
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: Bet, Raise, PUSH?

Yes, it does make sense.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Bet, Raise, PUSH?

Posted this at midnight last night, so please pardon the bump, but is a push the best play here?
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: Bet, Raise, PUSH?

i like a push as well though you may have little fold equity
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: Bet, Raise, PUSH?

In a situation like this (admitedly something I have not thought about enough in the past) what is the push trying to accomplish exactly. I am assuming you are hoping that you may force the villain to fold if he is on higher diamonds and maybe a high pocket pair (not likely he has that here), TPTK, or 2 pair.

Any thoughts/opinions/past experiences on what this does fold compared to what it doesn't?

I played this pretty badly. I thought about the push but just called. Turn was a diamond, I led for 2/3 pot, he minraised me, I pushed, he called and turned over A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I am assuming if the player is not a draw chaser I probably take it down if I had pushed, which is why I am beating myself up over my call.
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Old 11-09-2005, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: Bet, Raise, PUSH?

Not really

Check and bet out if you hit the flush c/r if you hit the straight.

If the board pairs, continue with caution.
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: Bet, Raise, PUSH?

I don't like it. You are getting your money in as a dog. Unless you feel that you are getting villain to fold a majority of the time, I think it better to just call. If you hit your straight you will get paid.
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Old 11-09-2005, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Bet, Raise, PUSH?

It makes sense but the problem with the move at this level is that there is almost no fold equity from a raiser.

Given his, he may have folded (although he does have two overs to the board as well, so its close for him), but I think villian calls this a 80+% of the time given his raise.
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Old 11-09-2005, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Bet, Raise, PUSH?

Once the diamond hits, is everyone getting stacked here?
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