Protected pot bluff

NLSoldier · #1 12-19-2005, 04:46 PM

No reads.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB raises, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO calls, Hero raises,

planning on folding to a 3bet and firing any river. anyone like it?

smacksoup · #2 12-19-2005, 04:50 PM

no

#3 12-19-2005, 04:51 PM

That's digusting.

An unknown BB (PRF) was facing 2 back to him on the flop and capped it?? Unless BB is a complete mongoloid, you are only ahead of king high diamonds here.

NLSoldier · #4 12-19-2005, 07:39 PM

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That's digusting.

An unknown BB (PRF) was facing 2 back to him on the flop and capped it?? Unless BB is a complete mongoloid, you are only ahead of king high diamonds here.

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usually when the title contains the word "bluff" the poster does not think they were ahead.

Victor · #5 12-19-2005, 07:44 PM

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That's digusting.

An unknown BB (PRF) was facing 2 back to him on the flop and capped it?? Unless BB is a complete mongoloid, you are only ahead of king high diamonds here.

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usually when the title contains the word "bluff" the poster does not think they were ahead.

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hi nl,

i think you should leave bluffing out of your arsenal at 10/20, especially when its quite clear your opponents have pairs. nobody folds.

#6 12-19-2005, 10:05 PM

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usually when the title contains the word "bluff" the poster does not think they were ahead.

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Yes, this is true, and from now on I intend to start reading the titles.

krishanleong · #7 12-19-2005, 04:59 PM

Hands like these always look really stupid. Most of them are stupid. Some of them are okay. In order for this to actually work, you need BB to fold his QJ, KJ, QQ, KK. Maybe. You also need CO to be on a weaker J/flush draw. Maybe. But you also have a couple outs worth of pot equity. And the pot is massive.

With reads I think this can be okay. It really hinges on BB being capable of laying down. There are a ton of players who are calling KJ down in this spot. CO doesn't worry me much.

Krishan

NLSoldier · #8 12-19-2005, 07:46 PM

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Hands like these always look really stupid. Most of them are stupid. Some of them are okay. In order for this to actually work, you need BB to fold his QJ, KJ, QQ, KK. Maybe. You also need CO to be on a weaker J/flush draw. Maybe. But you also have a couple outs worth of pot equity. And the pot is massive.

With reads I think this can be okay. It really hinges on BB being capable of laying down. There are a ton of players who are calling KJ down in this spot. CO doesn't worry me much.

Krishan

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This was my line of thinking.

I really thought I could get BB to fold one of those hands a decent amount of the time. Apperently you guys dont think so, and based on his calldown with KJ I guess you guys are right [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

elindauer · #9 12-20-2005, 07:42 AM

oddly, I'd expect KJ to calldown much more often then QQ or KK, for the simple reason that they can call the turn with the right odds to draw out on an ace, so they only have to make 1 real crying call. If they hold QQ, then the reverse implied odds starts to make a difference, as they know they cannot come back if they are currently behind.

my 2 cents.
eric

wackjob · #10 12-20-2005, 12:18 AM

definately think this is spewage and you are gonna lose this hand without a river miracle. i'd check/fold the turn fo sho.