Flop texture, AA

Phoenix1010 · #1 11-10-2005, 03:57 PM

You can 3 bet, flat call and re-evaluate the turn, or fold, obviously. Sans hard reads, with 100BB effective stacks, what do you generally do when...

A] Hero opens to 3.5BB in MP2 with AhAd, CO calls, BB calls.
Flop [Jd, 7c, 4s]
BB checks, Hero bets pot, CO minraises, BB folds, Hero?

B] Hero opens to 3.5BB in MP2 with AhAd, CO calls, BB calls.
Flop [Jd, Td, 4s]
BB checks, Hero bets pot, CO minraises, BB folds, Hero?

C] Hero opens to 3.5BB in MP2 with AhAd, CO calls, BB calls.
Flop [Kd, Qd, 4s]
BB checks, Hero bets pot, CO minraises, BB folds, Hero?

D] Hero opens to 3.5BB in MP2 with AhAd, CO calls, BB calls.
Flop [7s, 7h, 8d]
BB checks, Hero bets pot, CO minraises, BB folds, Hero?

E] Hero opens to 3.5BB in MP2 with AhAd, CO calls, BB calls.
Flop [6s, 7s, Ts]
BB checks, Hero bets pot, CO minraises, BB folds, Hero?

4_2_it · #2 11-10-2005, 04:08 PM

A,B,C I'm 3-betting the pot and folding if pushed.

D - Call and try to get to showdown as cheaply as possible (unless an ace hits)

E - Call down unless another spade hits or villain makes a significant overbet.

Edit - This would be easier to answer as a poll.

Phoenix1010 · #3 11-10-2005, 04:17 PM

wdeadwyler · #4 11-10-2005, 04:28 PM

Not to Hijack your thread (which is exactly what I am about to do [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img], but I was wondering if people had some input on the 3bet fold to a push line. You can use these hands as examples if you with, but I find this is a broad problem I run into.

I would say the majority of the time I plan on 3 betting and folding to a push, or raising and folding to a push, something goes wrong. The push doesnt come, the villain flat calls. OOP, this can be VERY tough to deal with. Often times we are left with a bloated pot, and still we are unsure if we are ahead or behind. What is the general thought process for dealing with this circumstance?

Feel free to use examples provided by OP or your own examples, but this is a problem I find myself running into constantly.

Thanks

Phoenix1010 · #5 11-10-2005, 04:35 PM

No worries, that was a large part of the point of the post.

xorbie · #6 11-10-2005, 04:53 PM

If I have AA and someone flops a set they will get my stack 90% of the time, and they have to be rather incompetent not to get it.

Phoenix1010 · #7 11-10-2005, 05:02 PM

Does that apply in 9 max as well?

xorbie · #8 11-10-2005, 05:08 PM

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Does that apply in 9 max as well?

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I don't play full ring, but no.

4_2_it · #9 11-10-2005, 05:33 PM

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If I have AA and someone flops a set they will get my stack 90% of the time, and they have to be rather incompetent not to get it.

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