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Old 10-21-2005, 04:08 AM
Gigabet Gigabet is offline
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Default Re: Festa al Lago....Gigabet is weak tight at heart.

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Both this and the 72o hand (which I don't think is anywhere near what you really had) are completely retarded, so congratulations. Why is it you never post hands where the action is, you know, the right one? Instead it's obscure and intensely questionable plays designed to make it look like your game is so far beyond the rest of ours that we can't possibly fathom it. Have you ever done something normal, like open with AA, or fold 83o?


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THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!!!

I think its about time someone manned up and said this, thank you Pax.

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It is your choice to read the hand histories that I post, and it is your choice to believe the info that I post in the hand history. I have no reason to lie about my holdings, I do have a complete HH that I posted of a step 5 higher that I played, where you can see all of my holdings(or maybe I changed all of my hand holdings in the txt file, I did post it 15 minutes after it finished, I had plenty of time.) If you reread that hh of the step 5 higher, and you choose to believe the info contained, I do not think that you will have a hard time believing that I had 72o in the hand against dave and eric, nor JT here.

I did write in one of the previous posts that this was an easy fold. That was supposed to be obvious sarcasm.
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:18 AM
chisness chisness is offline
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Default Re: Festa al Lago....Gigabet is weak tight at heart.

are you regretting this now?
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:48 AM
Big Limpin' Big Limpin' is offline
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Default Re: Festa al Lago....Gigabet is weak tight at heart.

I should clarify what i meant by the "emperors new clothes" reference. I refer to some of the best *players* on this forum being built up into deity standing (by others) to a point where they become "unquestionable"...in that chumps like me and 95% of the forum are intimidated to question a line or choice of posting material. Much akin to that fable i referenced. It want intended as an attack on anyone, just a commentary on the caste system of STTF.

The implication was not that you are B.S.ing with fabricated HHs. I do not understand where you got that from, nor why you got overly defensive there? Or do I?

Also man, realize that your posts are terrific because they provoke thoughts that few others do...and also incredibly frustrating because they usually dont give the line of thought "bridge" to get us understanding exactly why a play is best.
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Old 10-21-2005, 05:04 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: Festa al Lago....Gigabet is weak tight at heart.

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I did write in one of the previous posts that this was an easy fold. That was supposed to be obvious sarcasm.

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Damn, I missed the sarcasm.
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Old 10-21-2005, 05:12 AM
bluffski bluffski is offline
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Default Re: Festa al Lago....Gigabet is weak tight at heart.

I personally think you just made a laydown that kept u in the tournament. Congrats.
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Old 10-21-2005, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: Festa al Lago....Gigabet is weak tight at heart.

I'd estimate there is an 85% chance that you folded the best hand here. Needless to say, if you are playing to win the tournament, that would be a clear error.

Reraise on the flop enough so that Action Dan has poor drawing odds. Most likely he will lay his hand down. If he calls or pushes, you can decide whether you want to push.

This laydown is the tactical equivalent of laying down KK pre-flop because your opponent "appears" to have pocket AA.

One more thing to add - if Dan has the set of 3s, you still have 4 outs for the bigger boat.
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Old 10-21-2005, 08:03 AM
Seadood228 Seadood228 is offline
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Default Re: Festa al Lago....Gigabet is weak tight at heart.

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This laydown is the tactical equivalent of laying down KK pre-flop because your opponent "appears" to have pocket AA.

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That's interesting, because I could think of a few scenarios where I'd do this given those stack sizes. More so than folding top two in Gigabets situation..

But I don't necessarily agree that getting all the chips in at some point is the best idea.
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Old 10-21-2005, 08:22 AM
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If Action Dan is willing to call or reraise a HUGE flop re-raise, then that would certainly give me pause for thought.

Giga would still have enough chips left after a flop reraise to reconsider and try to get a read before committing all his chips - or folding. The most important thing about this hypothetical flop reraise is that it should be big enough to convey the clear message to Action Dan that he's probably going to have to risk almost all his chips to win this pot.

That way, you can:

1) put pressure on Dan
2) gain better information about what he is holding

The way Giga plays the flop and turn doesn't define Dan's hand as well as it could.

And Dan will have to think seriously about the possibility of Giga having a set and of possibly being crippled (or out) if he pushes.

And an earlier poster is right in thinking Dan might have AA,KK or QQ here. This is precisely the type of situation Dan would slowplay these hands (against a single opponent, with position, and a safe flop)

Congratulations on a classic Hellmuthian laydown.
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Old 10-21-2005, 07:43 AM
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Just where do I find that HH, btw? I've been searching for it but no joy.

And I have to admit, I think this is a straight, mathematically bad fold. (Based on his books, his most probably hand might be J4.) But hey, I'm not on the WPT, I guess you're doing something right...
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