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50-100 - River battle
First time in the 50-100 game at Great Blue Heron Casino, most of the pros are away in Vegas, so the game is good, full of rich Toronto folk looking to gamble, with maybe 2-3 other working pros. I'm the youngest player in this game by about 5 years, and after the second youngest, by about 15.
UTG, a very tough, good player, the other young guy at the table, and he's been winning lots of pots. An earlier hand, he raised UTG, I 3-bet with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], he calls. Heads up. 2 to the flop (7.5 SB): Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] He checks, I bet, he calls. 2 to the turn (4.75 BB): (Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] He checks, I check. I think he's got a PP below Queens, AK, and hopefully I can represent an AK type hand and take the free card. 2 to the river (4.75 BB): (Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] He bets, I raise, he calls and my hand is good. Now, this is one of a few fancy plays I made - stop and gos, slowplayed top two pair until the river, in order to assert myself as not a young kid to be pushed off pots, so UTG this player knows I can get fancy, so with that in mind, please critique my river play on this hand: The previous hand, I had 3-bet a tilted MP raiser to my right (who had previously raised with Q9s, but I don't know if many people had noticed he was on tilt) with ATo. It turns out he had AKo (oops) but we chopped. Some eyebrows are raised. UTG, the tough player from the first hand, raises UTG, tilted player cold-calls, I 3-bet with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2 call 3 cold (so much for respect), UTG calls, tilty calls. 5 to the flop (15 SB): A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG checks, MP checks, I bet, folded to UTG who raises, MP folds, I call (getting 18-1). 2 to the turn (9 BB): (A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img])J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG checks, I check. 2 to the river (9 BB): (A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]) K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG bets, I raise, he hesitates for a second, "okey, AK AK we chop we chop", in a thick Asian accent. He 3-bets, I 4-bet, He 5-bets. I get a sinking feeling as I call. |
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Re: 50-100 - River battle
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he hesitates for a second, "okey, AK AK we chop we chop", in a thick Asian accent. He 3-bets [/ QUOTE ] I haven't played in a live poker game in a long time, but this sounds like quads to me. I would have just called. |
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Re: 50-100 - River battle
"okey, AK AK we chop we chop" . . . He 3-bets, . . ."
Guy who think they are chopping don't raise without the nuts. |
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Re: 50-100 - River battle
You stopped too soon.
He's doesn't have AA. He'd have capped preflop, and certainly wouldn't shut out the remaining player and risk losing your action by checkraising the flop. He doesn't have 99 for the same postflop reason he doesn't have AA. But given that he may think you are full of it, he definitely would checkraise the flop with a flush draw, or with pocket jacks. I'd raise at least one more time for sure. If he 7-bets, then I may call. |
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Re: 50-100 - River battle
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"okey, AK AK we chop we chop" . . . He 3-bets, . . ." Guy who think they are chopping don't raise without the nuts. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. They definitely can always beat the hand they are supposedly chopping with. But its not necessary that they have the nuts. |
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Re: 50-100 - River battle
Yes, you're right, better than A-K, not necessarily the nuts though.
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Re: 50-100 - River battle
Pocket jacks looks like the hand, no?
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Re: 50-100 - River battle
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Pocket jacks looks like the hand, no? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I think so. Especially since the Jh and Kh are accounted for, making something like KhQh, QhJh, etc pretty unlikely for UTG. He'd have gotten (for a "solid" player) pretty out of line preflop to really have either a flush, or say something like 9's full. Definitely possible, but it smells more like jacks. |
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Re: 50-100 - River battle
JJ sounds about right. I think Clark hit the OCN (Oh Crap Number) pretty well too at 7 Bets. Although I'd be tempted to go one more round with a little alcohol in me.
Orange |
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Re: 50-100 - River battle
I thought he stopped too soon as well. The lack of a pre-flop cap makes me think he could have a range of hands, and if I am thinking of the same guy that Gamblor was against, he will cap with quite a few hands in a multi-way pot. I think 7 bets is about right.
The hollywood makes me cringe though, but not enough to just call the three-bet. If he has AA, good for him. It sounds like the game was good. I'll try to come out next Tuesday, if you are around. -Diplomat |
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