TPNK in large pot

silkyslim · #1 07-29-2005, 03:39 AM

No reads on these peeps yet. I bet the flop hoping villian would raise to thin the field and because my hand might be best

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, MP1 folds, Hero ??

POKhER · #2 07-29-2005, 04:09 AM

kickers counterfitted, A+Card over 6 now beats you.

Either call down, Or fold now... I think hes saying he has 1 pair beat.

JJ overplayed on his behalf? Gutshot straight hit?

9.75:2 = 4.875:1 --> Odds to improve 6.7:1
It might be wrong... but im folding
I'd let this go [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Fold

Eeegah · #3 07-29-2005, 05:18 AM

I smell a slowplay here, and even if he's not it looks to me like he can beat your counterfeited top pair. I don't think you're good more than the 6.4 to 1 you're probably getting after check/calling the river, but I'd still call down, swear loudly, and make a note if he did make a stupid slowplay in a large pot here.

thesharpie · #4 07-29-2005, 05:24 AM

Folds the turn. What's your plan if he raises the flop?

thesharpie · #5 07-29-2005, 05:31 AM

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I don't think you're good more than the 6.4 to 1 you're probably getting after check/calling the river, but I'd still call down and make a note

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I don't know how often we're good here, but let's say we're good 1 time and bad 8 times, including the times we might draw out. I actually think we're bad more often than this but I'll be optimistic. You just lost 1.6BB, an hour of winnings for some, to "make a note". I don't think any information is worth that much unless I'm playing with this opponent for many many hands.

McGahee · #6 07-29-2005, 08:50 AM

If he has AQ you can draw at the river. The problem with that is he doesn't have AQ.

NobodysFreak · #7 07-29-2005, 08:57 AM

I'm more likely to fold this turn than call down. A3s isn't a hand I want in this position.

Rosencrantz1 · #8 07-29-2005, 08:58 AM

Grunching.

This is the problem with low suited aces: when you pair the ace and miss the flush, you've got hard decisions to make.

The button's betting seems pretty straight-forward: the J improved him. Given his PF raise, I think we're most concerned about a set of Js.

He's obviously not scared of the over-cards being paired (he must be putting you on Aces or Kings, right?).

You're drawing pretty thin here. The aces are probably outs, but it's certainly possible villain is on AJ (or, I suppose, slowplaying AK, waiting for the turn to raise you). Pairing your trey will probably improve you, but really we're talking no more than 5 outs, probably better counted as 3.5-4. Even the implied odds aren't really good enough to make this a solid call.

I think it's ok to let this go to his raise on the turn.

xenthebrain · #9 07-29-2005, 08:59 AM

fold.
You have TPNK on a board with many highcards and a completed straightdraw. I don't think you are good here enough to justify going to showdown.

Rosencrantz1 · #10 07-29-2005, 09:00 AM

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If he has AQ you can draw at the river. The problem with that is he doesn't have AQ.

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Well crafted. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]