JTo flops trips in MP...learning slowly

Thriller · #1 08-22-2004, 05:22 PM

What is your read on this? Could I have skipped the 3-bet on the turn?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (8 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (6 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, CO folds, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB
Main Pot: 18 BB, between Hero and MP2.

bisonbison · #2 08-22-2004, 05:26 PM

I'd fold preflop. Flop bet good. I do not think you're ahead after he caps the turn, so I would check and call any river that doesn't fill you up.

Thriller · #3 08-22-2004, 05:29 PM

Thanks for the comments. What is your thought process on the pre-flop fold? Would you have played JTs? Or better yet, what position would you have played JTo?

Thanks again.

bisonbison · #4 08-22-2004, 05:37 PM

There are 3 things you consider when playing hands: high card value, suitedness and connectedness, pretty much in order of importance. JTo is medium high and connected, but it's often outkicked, often second pair or even third pair on the board and doesn't have flush possibilities which give you the big pots that even out the many small losses. I play JTs every time here, but I only play JTo in the blinds.

Nottom · #5 08-22-2004, 05:38 PM

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Thanks for the comments. What is your thought process on the pre-flop fold? Would you have played JTs? Or better yet, what position would you have played JTo?

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JTo is probably the most overrated hand in Hold'Em. Its really pretty much a junk hand and will get you into trouble most of the time. Fold it from basically anywhere but the blinds unless you are stealing with it, although I have no problems with a LP limp in a multiway pot against bad players.

Thriller · #6 08-22-2004, 05:52 PM

Thanks, this helps.

WillMagic · #7 08-22-2004, 11:04 PM

Fold preflop.

Call the turn raise and check/call the river.

Will