**RANT** Which site really has worse suck outs? PS or PP?

[w_raedy99]

I know this is some what of a rant, so please ignore if you wish. But I see people complain about bad beats on Party Poker all the time, saying it is completely unfair and a rigged site.

I have recently joined Poker Stars and have enjoyed the idea behind their $1,$2,$3 MTT tourneys and also tried a few SNG's. I have busted out four days in a row from the MTT's, always at LEAST a 4 to 1 advantage each time. I also have only placed ITM in one SNG, again losing almost everytime to at least a 4 to 1 shot. Granted I have a small sample size, but I am a pretty consistent player at Party Poker and am taking HORRIBLE beat after HORRIBLE beat on Poker Stars.

I do like their structure for tournaments more, but if I were investing more money I would've stopped playing there already.

Will

[GoblinMason (Craig)]

Neither. B&M is most rigged.

[Jurollo]

I would go one step further and say the game of poker has the worst suckouts, definately worse than monopoly!
~Justin

[fnurt]

If you are always a big favorite every time you lose, this is good news, because it means you are consistently getting your money in as a big favorite.

Neither site is rigged. Keep getting your money in as a big favorite and the odds rate to turn in your favor. Don't let the bad beats get to you.

[dogmeat]

Like 95% of all poker players you just don't get it. Figure this out:

You are not playing solitare here, so everytime you bet with a good hand and get called, somebody is trying to beat you with a worse one. Now here is the tough part - how many times, on average, will you be a 4-1 favorite before somebody beats you?

The thing everybody forgets is that you don't see (or consider) all the times that 4-1, 11-1 or 22-1 hand lost to you along the way before somebody got lucky.

When you understand this, you will like poker more. If you don't understand it, take up chess where the best player wins more often.

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[w_raedy99]

I welcome all criticism in this thread, some more constructive than others [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. As I warned both in the title and in the first sentence, I realized I was ranting, being upset from having just being knocked out on the bubble losing to a 2 outer on the river. Of course these things happen in poker, and I blame myself for not adding any additional questions that people could have responded to as well to make the thread more productive. I plan on creating a new thread that more articulately states my frustration/questions with Poker Stars tournaments and welcome any further critiques/comments in either thread.

Will

[dogmeat]

You already did your rant. Get over it. Do not start yet another of 20-a-day threads about the fact that you got beat playing poker. Please.

Dogmeat [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

[Tosh]

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I plan on creating a new thread that more articulately states my frustration/questions with Poker Stars tournaments and welcome any further critiques/comments in either thread.


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God no, 1 was bad enough.

[Jedi Flopper]

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I welcome all criticism in this thread, some more constructive than others [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. As I warned both in the title and in the first sentence, I realized I was ranting, being upset from having just being knocked out on the bubble losing to a 2 outer on the river. Of course these things happen in poker, and I blame myself for not adding any additional questions that people could have responded to as well to make the thread more productive. I plan on creating a new thread that more articulately states my frustration/questions with Poker Stars tournaments and welcome any further critiques/comments in either thread.

Will

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Here's a plan...do not play on the bubble. Fold every hand until someone else gets sucked out on. Then take your money and book a win.

If you take this advice, you will leave a lot of money on the table and it is impossible to fold your way into first place, but at least you will not waste bandwidth with a rant.

[Cleveland Guy]

The other thing people don't see is the times you win your dominated hands that don't go to showdown.

I was sitting in an online tournament when someone had their AA cracked by a set of 4s. A guy who wasn't in the hand says " I hate AA" - it loses a lot on here.

I kept my keyboard shut, but was laughing a lot. Another guy pipes up and says something to the effect that it's not as often as it seems

They get into an arguemen about it, and the smart guy makes the comment, you don't see how often AA wins when people fold.

The moron retorts "yeah, but the pot is always small when that happens".

Just proves some people get it, others don't.

But I think the one guy had the point straight on. If AA beats another pocket pair 80% of the time, how many of those times does the 55 or 66 fold on the flop to aggression?

So the AA wins, but no one knows what he had?