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Old 10-27-2005, 10:11 PM
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Default No idea how I should\'ve played this.

I'm almost completely new to Stud 8 or better, so I really have no idea if I played this hand horribly or not. I thought the player with the 3 spades showing was still drawing after he just called on 5th street, so I check-raised on 6th to make him call a double bet. Was this a bad play? How might I have played this hand?

Sorry I didn't convert this, but the page to the converter I use seems to be down.

PokerStars Game #2909643802: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($3/$6) - 2005/10/27 - 22:01:23 (ET)
Table 'Euneus III'
Seat 1: ThadSon ($39 in chips)
Seat 2: jewtn53 ($55.50 in chips)
Seat 3: RATS ($122 in chips)
Seat 4: gorky3 ($59.75 in chips)
Seat 5: China Brian ($63.75 in chips)
Seat 6: dsaxton ($222 in chips)
Seat 7: nath ($132.25 in chips)
Seat 8: dbtony ($137 in chips)
ThadSon: posts the ante $0.25
jewtn53: posts the ante $0.25
RATS: posts the ante $0.25
gorky3: posts the ante $0.25
China Brian: posts the ante $0.25
dsaxton: posts the ante $0.25
nath: posts the ante $0.25
dbtony: posts the ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to ThadSon [Ts]
Dealt to jewtn53 [5c]
Dealt to RATS [6h]
Dealt to gorky3 [5d]
Dealt to China Brian [6d]
Dealt to dsaxton [Kh Kd 8d]
Dealt to nath [8h]
Dealt to dbtony [9h]
jewtn53: brings-in low $1
RATS: calls $1
gorky3: folds
China Brian: folds
dsaxton: raises $2 to $3
nath: calls $3
dbtony: folds
ThadSon: calls $3
jewtn53: folds
RATS: calls $2
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to ThadSon [Ts] [Js]
Dealt to RATS [6h] [4d]
Dealt to dsaxton [Kh Kd 8d] [Ac]
Dealt to nath [8h] [8s]
nath: checks
ThadSon: checks
RATS: bets $3
dsaxton: raises $3 to $6
nath: folds
ThadSon: calls $6
RATS: calls $3
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to ThadSon [Ts Js] [6s]
Dealt to RATS [6h 4d] [5s]
Dealt to dsaxton [Kh Kd 8d Ac] [Th]
dsaxton: checks
ThadSon: checks
RATS: bets $6
dsaxton: calls $6
ThadSon: calls $6
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to ThadSon [Ts Js 6s] [3c]
Dealt to RATS [6h 4d 5s] [9c]
Dealt to dsaxton [Kh Kd 8d Ac Th] [Jh]
dsaxton: checks
ThadSon: checks
RATS: bets $6
dsaxton: raises $6 to $12
ThadSon: calls $12
RATS: raises $6 to $18
dsaxton: calls $6
ThadSon: calls $6
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to dsaxton [Kh Kd 8d Ac Th Jh] [2c]
dsaxton: checks
ThadSon: bets $5.75 and is all-in
RATS: raises $0.25 to $6
dsaxton: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RATS: shows [7h 2s 6h 4d 5s 9c Ah] (HI: high card Ace; LO: 6,5,4,2,A)
dsaxton: shows [Kh Kd 8d Ac Th Jh 2c] (HI: a pair of Kings)
dsaxton collected $0.25 from side pot
RATS collected $0.25 from side pot
ThadSon: shows [Tc Qs Ts Js 6s 3c 4s] (HI: a flush, Queen high)
ThadSon collected $59.75 from main pot
RATS collected $59.50 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $122.75 Main pot $119.25. Side pot $0.50. | Rake $3
Seat 1: ThadSon showed [Tc Qs Ts Js 6s 3c 4s] and won ($59.75) with HI: a flush, Queen high
Seat 2: jewtn53 folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 3: RATS showed [7h 2s 6h 4d 5s 9c Ah] and won ($59.75) with HI: high card Ace; LO: 6,5,4,2,A
Seat 4: gorky3 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: China Brian folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dsaxton showed [Kh Kd 8d Ac Th Jh 2c] and won ($0.25) with HI: a pair of Kings
Seat 7: nath folded on the 4th Street
Seat 8: dbtony folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
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Old 10-27-2005, 10:19 PM
Jeffage Jeffage is offline
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Default Re: No idea how I should\'ve played this.

There is a link to stud converter in this forum's FAQ...makes it easier to read.

Jeff

7 Card Stud High-Low ($3/$6), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.67 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (5.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___folds

5th Street - (5.50 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls

6th Street - (8.50 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___raises___calls

River - (17.50 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets $5.75 and is all-in
Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___raises
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls

Total pot: (20.46 BB)

Results:
Total pot $122.75 Main pot $119.25. Side pot $0.50. | Rake $3

Seat 1: [Tc Qs Ts Js 6s 3c 4s] (HI: a flush, Queen high)

Seat 3: [7h 2s 6h 4d 5s 9c Ah] (HI: high card Ace; LO: 6,5,4,2,A)

Hero: [Kh Kd 8d Ac Th Jh 2c] (HI: a pair of Kings)
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Old 10-27-2005, 10:23 PM
Jeffage Jeffage is offline
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Default Re: No idea how I should\'ve played this.

I fold 4th since you have no low outs and can easily get scooped.

Jeff
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Old 10-27-2005, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: No idea how I should\'ve played this.

I would probably just fold third. Raise if I was on tilt. I would then fold 4th after I found out that I had three other opponents. I want to be HU with these types of hands if I can and never more than three opponents.
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Old 10-27-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: No idea how I should\'ve played this.

Fourth is a fold, you could be behind for high to 2 pair, there is one good low draw out with straight potential, the other villian might have a four flush. This is one of those hands where you either lose a lot or win a little. Fold and save yourself some money unless you are a world class hand reader.

Mike
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: No idea how I should\'ve played this.

Yeah. I guess I am quite a fish at Stud 8 or better right now.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: No idea how I should\'ve played this.

Tough hand. Fourth didn't come down well at all, but I don't think calling is the end of the world. Fifth is a definite fold. The spade guy could well have a flush (and should if he has reasonable starting requirements, which apparently he does not). If he doesn't have the flush, he's probably drawing to one. The low hand could have a straight, or he could easily catch one by the river. Or you could get beaten some other way. It's possible that you have the highest hand at this point, but the likelihood of it being best on the end is not strong enough to be putting in three or more big bets to see if maybe you can escape with half of this pot.

If you don't have it, get Ray Zee's book.
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