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Re: anyone see this? DN lays down KK preflop..
well, i was at the table and i was the one to make an initial raise. I knew the guy didnt have aces right away cause he popped the pot 10x with only me and a calling station in it. Also, after moving all-in the guy started saying: I got u beat, your hand can't be better than mine, etc. This banter also made me scratch my head and coupled with the monster bet I put him on AK, QQ or JJ.
But DN was in a tough situation. He didnt wanna leave that early considering he lost half his stack on first hand of the tourney and wanted to pick a better spot. so it was very understandable. |
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Re: anyone see this? DN lays down KK preflop..
the guy with QQ had a little over 35K at that point, so he obviuosly could put pressure on DN without that much damage to him. Within an hour after that he doubled up Jean Robert Bellande with TT v. QQ on a rag flop
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Re: anyone see this? DN lays down KK preflop..
when DN said novice he knew what he was talking about. Previously the guy made some bad calls and chased down middle pair on flush board to make runner runner quads, etc.
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Re: anyone see this? DN lays down KK preflop..
he said he plays some but not much. He definitely played WCOOP but refused to disclose his screen name on stars
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Re: anyone see this? DN lays down KK preflop..
pot odds is not everything when u risk going out second hour of a major tourney. after the fold he still had 10K left
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Re: anyone see this? DN lays down KK preflop..
well, everyone knew he had Kings after he said "I never laid down this hand in my life". So it wasnt very helpful. After that comment by DN, the only thing that QQ guy said that he would show the hand. This was one more thing that made me even more confident he didnt have Aces
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Re: anyone see this? DN lays down KK preflop..
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Couldn't he of said something along the lines of "You realize I have kings here", then his opponent would of probably given off some sort of sign of weakness, no? [/ QUOTE ] Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it is against the rules to say specifically what your hand is before the money is in the pot. He could make the Hullmuthian statement, "I don't think you understand how strong I am here." |
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Re: anyone see this? DN lays down KK preflop..
well, you could make an argument for either folding or calling. Absent the knowledge of the action on the hand i would have folded too and without much hesitation
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Re: anyone see this? DN lays down KK preflop..
i dont know if there is a rule against saying what your hand is. I know that you cant show your hand without calling or folding it. But when DN said: "I never laid this hand down before" noone had a doubt as to what he had
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Re: anyone see this? DN lays down KK preflop..
Yeah, of course it was a terrible fold- because the guy had QQ and not AA. But I kind of think DN has been fairly good at understanding these "typical players" throughout his career, considering that as a tournament specialist he faces so many each year. I give him credit for honestly writing about the hand, and he admitted he made a mistake. But my guess is that his reads against that kind of player is about 25x better than anyone on this board. And it also seems like he does pretty well most of the time at interpretting what people are saying to him correctly.
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