MTT: Play passive, or was this OK?

lilkunta2 · #1 10-28-2005, 01:42 AM

***** Hand History for Game 2942497806 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:16936683 Level:4 Blinds (25/50) - Friday, October 28, 02:41:25 EDT 2005
Table $1,250 Players Club Freeroll(497523) Table #33 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: meixne ( $530 )
Seat 2: Jiffypop ( $520 )
Seat 3: abdull7 ( $2275 )
Seat 4: edwardlhart ( $4185 )
Seat 5: xballplayer ( $1480 )
Seat 8: lilkunta2 ( $1710 )
Seat 10: busta75 ( $2530 )
Seat 7: El_Genio ( $2300 )
Seat 9: edmovieman ( $2445 )
Seat 6: egt68 ( $1947 )
Trny:16936683 Level:4
Blinds (25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lilkunta2 [ 8h 8c ]
busta75 folds.
meixne folds.
Jiffypop folds.
abdull7 folds.
edwardlhart folds.
xballplayer folds.
egt68 folds.
El_Genio calls [50].
lilkunta2 raises [225].
edmovieman folds.
El_Genio calls [200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 4s, 7d ]
lilkunta2 bets [275].
El_Genio calls [275].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
lilkunta2 checks.
El_Genio checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]
lilkunta2 checks.
El_Genio bets [500].
lilkunta2 folds.
El_Genio does not show cards.
El_Genio wins 1600 chips

raise more pre-flop??? or just check and take the flop? i wanted to win it right there,,, so i guess i shouldve rasied more. but i got it heads up which i also wanted. i made a standard continuation bet on the flop and when he called i decided it was time to give up.

what do you think is better? rasie preflop or just check and see what happenes?

#2 10-28-2005, 01:49 AM

Your flop bet's too small.

lilkunta2 · #3 10-28-2005, 02:27 AM

id really have to disagree there,,,, i think the flop bet is perfect. its preflop thats MORE questionable than flop. do you have any comments on preflop?

KneeCo · #4 10-28-2005, 02:39 AM

very standard IMO.

The size of the cont. bet seems fine to me, +EV if it works more than 1/3 the time and all that good HoH stuff.

I think taking a second shot at the turn would be a mistake, getting you into dark tunnel territory.

As for raising more pf, it generally wouldn't be the best idea I think, but since this is a PP freeroll, you never what his calling ranges could include.

Nevertheless, at this stage in the tourny, I like your line.

Cactus Jack · #5 10-28-2005, 01:12 PM

If you're thinking this was passive, what would you call super aggressive? The raise was aggressive, the c-bet was aggressive, the bet on the river was a kamikaze dive. If the c-bet didn't drive him out, then you're asking to watch a lot of your chips slide across the table.

What if he'd called you with K6o? You don't think they will? Play some more.

A freeroll, you get away with this sometimes, cause they don't know a starting hand from a butt-scratching hand, but if you play for real, you're toast. Even at the lowest limits you can expect somebody to be playing Ax, which he probably was and the surprising thing is he didn't call, as they are prone to do. What would you have done if he'd reraised your turn? Aside from drinking ritual saki and drawing a sword across your belly? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Passive-->tight-->aggressive-->super-aggressive-->fish. What scale were you thinking?

CJ

#6 10-28-2005, 01:32 PM

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If you're thinking this was passive, what would you call super aggressive? The raise was aggressive, the c-bet was aggressive, the bet on the river was a kamikaze dive. If the c-bet didn't drive him out, then you're asking to watch a lot of your chips slide across the table.

What if he'd called you with K6o? You don't think they will? Play some more.

A freeroll, you get away with this sometimes, cause they don't know a starting hand from a butt-scratching hand, but if you play for real, you're toast. Even at the lowest limits you can expect somebody to be playing Ax, which he probably was and the surprising thing is he didn't call, as they are prone to do. What would you have done if he'd reraised your turn? Aside from drinking ritual saki and drawing a sword across your belly? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Passive-->tight-->aggressive-->super-aggressive-->fish. What scale were you thinking?

CJ

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Read the hand more carefully. He didn't bet the river but checked-folded it.

Well-played, maybe I would not even have bet the flop thought. Do you think that PP lower than 88 calls you pre-flop or KQ or KJ? If not, don't bet and check fold.

Cactus Jack · #7 10-28-2005, 01:41 PM

Oops, my bad. In the immortal words of Miss Emily Latella....Never mind. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

You did fine. Don't worry about it at all.

runout_mick · #8 10-28-2005, 01:58 PM

Not bad.

Preflop, I only raise this about 1/3 of the time from sb (I hate being oop), otherwise I limp it. In this situation a limp would have made a 3 way pot , and I don't hate 88 3-handed.

Post-flop, I may bet very slightly more as a continuation bet, but that's arguing semantics.

Well done.