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Old 07-07-2005, 02:03 AM
ppeng ppeng is offline
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Default Was I set up?

I just got busted in a no limit game live, but was I set up by a mechanic? This is a very usual game I play in but we doubled the buy in tonight. Everyone is pretty much a LAG but I swear to god I got mechaniced so I'm just looking for some feedback.

Hero is first with KK
Hero raises, Villian Calls
Flop K 8 8
Villian bets, Hero calls
Turn 4
River 7
Villian Bets, Hero goes all in
Villian calls
VIllan wins with 88 ( four of a kind)
Afterwards I dunno it felt like a train wreck, do these hands come up often or do I just get the ass end of these things a lot?
What puzzles me is the dealer flipped up my first card so I got the burn, which was the second K, I would have had KJd, but instead got dealt KK. The hand just seemed too set up, because WHO THE HELL FLOPS 4 of a kind? I'm just looking for comments please don't flame me too bad.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:07 AM
jman220 jman220 is offline
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Default Re: Was I set up?

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The hand just seemed too set up, because WHO THE HELL FLOPS 4 of a kind?

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You're totally right. That never happens, the odds of flopping four of a kind are just way too astronomical. You won't find anyone on this forum who's ever seen it happen, and collectively we've played millions of hands. You were definitely cheated, go and demand your money back.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:08 AM
eric5148 eric5148 is offline
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Default Re: Was I set up?

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I got mechaniced

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You got retardeded.

I'd say the only logical thing to do is hire a hitman to kill all of those dudes. Give us an update when you do.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:11 AM
imported_ncray imported_ncray is offline
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Default Re: Was I set up?

Without any additional information you are were in all likelihood not set up. These things happen, although rarely. I've flopped quads a few times in the past couple thousand hands. To be against a flopped fullhouse though in those situations is more rare, but completely within the realm of possibility. You'd really need some evidence before instigating anything.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:14 AM
cbfair cbfair is offline
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Default Re: Was I set up?

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The hand just seemed too set up, because WHO THE HELL FLOPS 4 of a kind? I'm just looking for comments please don't flame me too bad.

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Happens all the time. I flopped four of a kind twice tonight online (first: 88 Flop 88x second QA Flop QQQ) got paid off both times.

It could be a set-up but if you've played in this game before and all factors are equal except stakes, its much more likely that it's just how the cards fell.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:16 AM
Downrock Downrock is offline
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Default Re: Was I set up?

doubt it was a setup.. happened to me on paradise poker a couple days ago.. flopped full house runs into flopped quads.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:25 AM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default Re: Was I set up?

The odds of flopping quads with a pocket pair are about 1-400.

In other words every 400 times you get dealt a pocket pair you can expect to flop quads once (statistically speaking).

By no means a miracle.

Do you know the guy who was dealing? Being a mechanic isn't easy, it's not something you can jsut do once for the heck of it. It's a "skill" you have to develop to not be obvious.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:31 AM
Losing all Losing all is offline
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Default Re: Was I set up?

I've flopped quads 4 or 5 times this week and I haven't played much. Not that rare. That doesn't mean you weren't cheated. noone here can tell you either way though.

If you have a bad feeling about the game or certain players, don't play it. Simple as that.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: Was I set up?

Why haven't you had them arrested for collusion yet?
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:42 AM
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Never happened to me....

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