unsure what to do

nrinker · #1 01-13-2005, 02:32 AM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero raises, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (11 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 raises, CO 3-bets, Button folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP3 calls.

I should have capped this and led out on turn right? Then call a raise?

milesdyson · #2 01-13-2005, 02:35 AM

Reads really help. If CO is really passive, I think you can make a nice lay down there on the flop. Yes, I just said that.

Mur · #3 01-13-2005, 02:50 AM

I think you are way behind with possibly only 1 safe out. I would fold this and be happy that I didn't lose any more bets.

davelin · #4 01-13-2005, 02:51 AM

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I think you are way behind with possibly only 1 safe out. I would fold this and be happy that I didn't lose any more bets.

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What do you put Villains on?

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie) · #5 01-13-2005, 02:54 AM

I would coldcall and see what the turn brings. You may be up against top pair, two pair, a set, a draw, or some combination of those hands, and the turn card and action will help you figure out just what's going on here.

Mur · #6 01-13-2005, 02:58 AM

I would put someone on 2 pair, also possibility of a set (jj, I would think), as well a flush draw.. all 3 could be lurking. I see very little possibility for hero to improve. What would card would you expect to improve your hand?

Or is anyone arguing that you can win unimproved?

Entity · #7 01-13-2005, 03:04 AM

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Or is anyone arguing that you can win unimproved?

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You will often win this unimproved against an overaggressive King and an overzealous flush draw. I'm not going to say more than 50% of the time, but often enough that folding the flop would be incorrect.

My default line, yes, is to cap and lead the turn. I think that would be a fine line for this occasion, though I would be cautious about which turn cards I'd lead.

Don't fold this flop though.

Rob

nrinker · #8 01-13-2005, 05:20 AM

thats what id do, if I had to do it over. Id cap the flop and lead the turn, assuming the flush card or another scare card didn't show its face. I had no reads, I hadn't seen either player get out of line, but I had been at the table for a mere 20 to 30 hands.