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Old 10-10-2005, 12:53 AM
Wabby Wabby is offline
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Default Re: is there a way to get rakeback on party?

I have usually played around bonus time, so my old account is not dormant.

I would potentially move 7-9k MGR to party a month.

Why would they want me to stop playing on their network for 2 months before allowing me in their club?
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Old 10-10-2005, 12:55 AM
SinCityGuy SinCityGuy is offline
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Default Re: is there a way to get rakeback on party?

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By the time this happens they have been compensated more than enough.

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and since they've already been compensated "more than enough", it doesn't hurt them? i don't understand.

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From their perspective, they haven't been compensated enough. They want the player's MGR refund for life. I guarantee you that the decibel level from these nonrakeback affiliates is going to go off the charts if other affiliates start openly giving rakeback at Party.

And don't think that Party doesn't care about this. The last thing in the world that they want is for a war to break out between nonrakeback and rakeback affiliates. They end up having to deal with a whole litany of problems, like people trying to create duplicate accounts.
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: is there a way to get rakeback on party?

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I logged into playmoney to get a look at the BJ tables.

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They have playmoney BJ tables?
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  #114  
Old 10-10-2005, 01:03 AM
ilikeaces ilikeaces is offline
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Default Re: is there a way to get rakeback on party?

At least the steps will get more traffic now.
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:04 AM
Wabby Wabby is offline
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Default Re: is there a way to get rakeback on party?

Well, maybe its not such a big problem for Party anymore.

It is much easier to persuade someone to open an account at Empire with rakeback, than to open an account in another name and play Party from that one.

Of course some semipros will choose that option, but for the casual player that is much too much trouble to get rakeback.

Most will stay with Party and forget about the rake.
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Old 10-10-2005, 01:13 AM
SinCityGuy SinCityGuy is offline
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Default Re: is there a way to get rakeback on party?

I think you missed my point. There are a lot of serious players who already have accounts at Party with nonrakeback affiliates. I am one of them.

A lot of these rakeback affiliates are taking a cavalier attitude with this situation and saying stuff like "we think we've probably got something worked out" or "it looks like me might be able to do something with Party.", etc.

If this in fact does start to happen, all of the nonrakeback affiliates are going to go ballistic again, grilling Party about why they're not enforcing open violations of 3.2.9 of the affiliate agreement. This is what lead Party to take away the tracking before, and so far nobody has explained how this situation won't happen again.
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Old 10-10-2005, 02:13 AM
Olback Olback is offline
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Default Re: is there a way to get rakeback on party?

Party Poker Rakeback Offers can be found at:

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Old 10-10-2005, 02:15 AM
Wabby Wabby is offline
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Default Re: is there a way to get rakeback on party?

Maybe we can dream of waking up tomorrow and Party changed their T&C, to not really caring about what the affiliate spends his money on.

Of course some would go ballistic. But would it really hurt Party in the long run?

Like the sharks are eager to enter the Party Fish Bowl again, so are the affiliates eager to send traffic to Party because this is where many fish wants to go. They have the brand.
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Old 10-10-2005, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: is there a way to get rakeback on party?

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Why would they want me to stop playing on their network for 2 months before allowing me in their club?

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I too do not understand the need to wait 60 days.
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Old 10-10-2005, 02:28 AM
SinCityGuy SinCityGuy is offline
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Default Re: is there a way to get rakeback on party?

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Maybe we can dream of waking up tomorrow and Party changed their T&C, to not really caring about what the affiliate spends his money on.

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Yes, but that's not going to happen. And I still haven't heard any kind of explanation from these affiliates (who claim to have Party's blessing) who are going to offer rakeback, when it's still patently in violation of Party's terms and conditions (Section 3.2.9). Are we to believe that Party told them, "Oh, don't mind that, it's just there for cosmetic purposes." Or "Don't worry about that. We've been really busy and we just haven't gotten around to revising that page yet.

Somebody had better come up with some definitive information on this, because I guarantee you that those nonrakeback affiliates are going to be all over this again.
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