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Old 12-27-2004, 12:03 AM
Mur Mur is offline
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Default Turn raise with flush & open ended straight draw

Hey folks, new to this forum although I've been lurking for a long time. My question on the following hand is whether my turn raise is standard fare or should it be avoided:

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, BB calls.

River: (12.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:15 AM
zuluking zuluking is offline
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Default Re: Turn raise with flush & open ended straight draw

Welcome to the forums.

1-The AJ suited is autoraise UTG in microlimits.

2-Bet out on the flop, if raised, re-raise it right back.

3-Personally I would have just bet out on the turn.

4-Nice hand. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:18 AM
bigmac366 bigmac366 is offline
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Default Re: Turn raise with flush & open ended straight draw

i play draws this strong much more agressively. you have a 12 out draw on the flop and a 15 outer on the turn, without even counting your overcard outs. your flop draw comes in 45% by the river. imho you shouldve bet the flop and the turn. i'm interested to hear what others think.

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jeff
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: Turn raise with flush & open ended straight draw

zuluking, I appreciate the response. re: point #3 I only checked with the expectation that my subsequent raise would get enough calls.

At that point, do I want people to fold or call? Presumably if I hit one of my straight / flush outs I should have the best hand.
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:32 AM
Cardzy Cardzy is offline
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Default Re: Turn raise with flush & open ended straight draw

I'm not zulu but I'll reply to your question. If you have 5 players seeing the flop, chances are the majority of them won't be folding to a raise on that flop. It's a loose game. You only need 3 other players in a pot to make capping the flop correct with the nut flush draw. Bet it up!
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Old 12-27-2004, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: Turn raise with flush & open ended straight draw

raise preflop and bet out on turn
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