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Old 07-15-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default ESPN can\'t be too thrilled about this final table

not taking anything away from these players, they must all have obvioiulsy played their hearts out for days to make it here, and maybe after winning this or coming close some may become regulars on the circuit.

However, with all of the following sub plots leading into this with the final 60 and less remaining:

- Tif williamson only remaining woman, and biggest money winner ever for woman gets eliminated a dozen spots off.
- Greg raymer in an amazing run for a repeat goes out 1 table shy of final table
- Phil Ivey, big marketable poker pro, within easy reach of first final table and huge chip stack, goes on yet another near bubble tailspin and bad luck knock him off 1 table short
- John juanda, other big name poker pro, also goes out within last 100 (i think).

So now, other than Matusow, none of these names are recognizable, to general public anyways, and not nearly as much appeal as if just 1 of those subplots would have made it to final table.

That being said, good luck to remaining 9, and a heartfelt condolensce to the guy out in 10th, who lost to a river 2 outer, which cost him $400000...at least.
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Old 07-15-2005, 04:41 PM
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The 10th guy (Ayhan Alsancak) had QQ vs AT hearts
flop had 2 hearts and the AT hrts moved in cuz the other guy was short stacked (or called either way it was correct because of how short stacked that Ayhan was. The turn was a ten which gave Kanter 13 outs (Ace, Ten or heart). But still it has got to be tough to go out 10th
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Old 07-15-2005, 04:51 PM
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The 10th guy (Ayhan Alsancak) had QQ vs AT hearts
flop had 2 hearts and the AT hrts moved in cuz the other guy was short stacked (or called either way it was correct because of how short stacked that Ayhan was. The turn was a ten which gave Kanter 13 outs (Ace, Ten or heart). But still it has got to be tough to go out 10th

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Ayhan started the day 27 with 225k, he was fortunate to even be in a position to have a chance at the last 9.

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Old 07-15-2005, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: ESPN can\'t be too thrilled about this final table

Thats something else that the 26th and 27th stack going into the day went out 11th and 10th.
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Old 07-15-2005, 04:54 PM
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OK i stand corrected..all i heard was that he had aces paired, and other guy had qq, and hit case queen....so i assumed 2 outs
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Old 07-15-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: ESPN can\'t be too thrilled about this final table

Whilst I agree they would have hand-picked a different 9 it isn't really any different to last year or indeed the year before that as far as your average ESPN viewer is concerned
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Old 07-15-2005, 04:49 PM
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2003 Final Table

Moneymaker
Farha
Harrington
Vahedi
Lester
Pak
Benvenisti
Singer
Grey
10th Ivey

2004 Final Table

Raymer
Arieh
Harrington
Hughes
Williams
Andersson
McClain
Krux
Dean
10th Luske

How many of those names did the general public know before play began those years? ESPN having 3 months to develop story lines will make things exciting enough for people to want to watch.

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Old 07-15-2005, 04:57 PM
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exactamundo
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Old 07-15-2005, 06:01 PM
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ESPN has a product which will sell no matter what. They will tell a story as they see fit and judging from the action so far, they'll have no trouble painting the picture as they desire. I wouldn't mind seeing an online qualifer winning this thing because it will keep the "dream" alive and result in more fish coming into the game.
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:35 PM
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ESPN has a product which will sell no matter what. They will tell a story as they see fit and judging from the action so far, they'll have no trouble painting the picture as they desire. I wouldn't mind seeing an online qualifer winning this thing because it will keep the "dream" alive and result in more fish coming into the game.

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Exactly. I don't care about ESPN ratings or overall public perception of the game. I do know the relate to what I really care about. But not enough to make any single thing matter that much. What I really care about is more fish and their $$ coming into the game. That is what is +EV for me.
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