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Old 12-28-2005, 05:14 PM
bobbyi bobbyi is offline
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I would invest $30 into PartyMine and mine each level before you move up.

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Note that there is a good chance that the new version of the Party client software will be rolled out before before your 75 days are up, at which point PartyMine will be useless since you won't be able to gather stats on observed hands anymore.
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Old 12-28-2005, 06:20 PM
hobbsmann hobbsmann is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

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I would invest $30 into PartyMine and mine each level before you move up.

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Note that there is a good chance that the new version of the Party client software will be rolled out before before your 75 days are up, at which point PartyMine will be useless since you won't be able to gather stats on observed hands anymore.

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Really? Can we still use old party software to mine? Why did party decide to stop allowing gathering of stats for observed hands?
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Old 12-28-2005, 08:06 PM
DMBFan23 DMBFan23 is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

there was an announcement a while ago, not sure where the zoo thread on it is. IMO the likelihood of them letting you play on an older version without upgrading is small
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

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I would invest $30 into PartyMine and mine each level before you move up.

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Note that there is a good chance that the new version of the Party client software will be rolled out before before your 75 days are up, at which point PartyMine will be useless since you won't be able to gather stats on observed hands anymore.

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Oh, well that sucks.
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:11 AM
SackUp SackUp is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

Well I hope it is possible as I just made the move myself [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I started seriously playing on Jan 1st of this year after mostly being a bonus whore before that. I read SSH and began my journey on $2/4. I played about 90k hands and ran around 2.75bb/100 overall. I ran about 3.4bb/100 since June though, once I learned the art of thet semi-steal, blind steal, and blind defense. Thanks in large part to this post by Evan - Some general thoughts on blind stealing and the links inside it, especially the one by Nate on his 15 blind stealing experiment.

As of Dec. 10th I made the jump from 2/4 directly to 15/30. I was going to try 3/6, 5/10, and 10/20 first, but they are all mostly short handed games and I didn't want to have to pick up this new style, so I just said eff it. I was a little underolled for the 15 as I made some major withdrawals for xmas, but after watching the games and mining I felt I could beat it. So I took my 7k and said lets rock.

So far I've logged in about 10k hands and have ran around 2.5bb/100. Obviously these stats are rather meaningless at this point, but I have felt VERY comfortable at the level. There are definitely some adjustments to be made for aggression, but once you get a feel for it, it is not bad at all. I also make sure to practice very good table selection and there are very few times I play at a table w/o several fish and stats on everyone else. Also, the buddy list is your friend [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

With the good table selection the most games I have had going at once is 7, but I average around 3 tables as I don't mess around with lame TAG tables.

So that is my story and it seems like you are in a fairly similar boat. Good luck and keep us informed. I'll do the same.
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:15 AM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Thanks for your response, bro. Good luck! I'll read those posts.

--Dave.
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:55 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: 15/30 questions

Your post has inspired me to take a stab at 15/30. I play 5/10 now and will move up as soon as I'm rolled (it will take some time). But I can't see why you so desperately need to play 8 tables at each limits. I think that might lead to your downfall.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:34 AM
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I'm sure you can. Personally, it took me about 6-months but I also spent a very long time at 5/10 and 10/20 6-max. My bankroll was large enough much earlier.
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Old 12-27-2005, 12:20 PM
BigEndian BigEndian is offline
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David, you already have the bankroll for 15-30. I wouldn't bother with stopping at the limits in between. Just set yourself up for the expectations of winning and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, losing more than you are used to.

Move to the 15-30, get adjusted, and don't turn into a LAG as a lot of people taking their first steps into 15-30 land are wont to do.

You will see that a lot more hands do not go to showdown, you will be 3-bet with AQo very often and mid-pairs down to 77 routinely. You will be put in more positions where putting in a value raise isn't truely as valuable as keeping your opponent around for more bets (the first time you wait to raise your overpair on the turn and get a fold, you will see this).

You will also get to know the biggest fish on a first-name basis and learn to seek them out and never be bothered when they put beats on you (and privately cheer them on when they are getting short-stacked and are in a hand against another player).

If you take a big hit financially, drop down to the 10-20. You'll be amazed how soft it will feel and you will crush it and be back at the 15-30 in no time.

- Jim
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:18 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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If you take a big hit financially, drop down to the 10-20. You'll be amazed how soft it will feel and you will crush it and be back at the 15-30 in no time.


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I'm sure this question has been answered about a zillion times, but is there a big differance between 10/20 and 15/30?
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