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Old 12-08-2005, 10:45 PM
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Default 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($68)
BB ($315.35)
UTG ($107.05)
UTG+1 ($237.65)
MP1 ($105.45)
MP2 ($193.75)
Hero ($186.60)
CO ($214.95)
Button ($183.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $8.

Flop: ($33) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $40</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($113) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>, Button calls $40.

River: ($233) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $233

No reads. I have to admit I was pretty lost in this hand after the flop minraise. Comments on all streets welcome.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?

Without a read fold the flop...
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?

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Without a read fold the flop...

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You are not serious...
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?

Not really sure what you are going for on the turn.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?

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Not really sure what you are going for on the turn.

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yea turn play sucks bad

however, once he bets that $20, what would you do xorbie? check-raise big? check-call? im leaning towards check-call, keep the pot small, maybe vb river (but isnt river like 150 by then and we only have 110 left in our stack? ugly)
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:17 PM
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Not really sure what you are going for on the turn.

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Honestly, neither do I (which is why I'm looking for advice [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]). I guess I was sort of thinking I was beat and planning to check/fold, but then that $20 bet just seemed so weak, I thought he might just fold if I came over the top. How would you play it? Lead out? Check/call?
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:20 PM
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I said fold because this hand would be extremely difficult to play on other streets and villains hand range is far too wide.
Chances are your going to face a turn and river bet, What then? Hero's Line was good if you wanted to see a showdown, but I think you're beat enough here against an unknown to fold.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?

even if you wanted him to fold, a check-raise to 60 in that pot is not doing a thing

pot is 110

he bets 20

you raise to 60

hes got 40 to call into a 190 pot, 5:1 odds is good enough for basically any high heart, any pair, any overpair, any straight draws + pairs, whatever, you name it
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?

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Without a read fold the flop...

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You are not serious...

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Is folding REALLY that bad?
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - TT - How bad did I butcher this?

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Without a read fold the flop...

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You are not serious...

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Is folding REALLY that bad?

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i dont think so. still like a call.
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