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Old 12-07-2005, 05:35 AM
pokerjoker pokerjoker is offline
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Default 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)

Semi Hypothetical hand.

Villian seemed pretty tight pf. I put him on pocket pair TT (maybe JJ or below. AA is possible too but less likely, especially when he didnt push river. Most people wont play JJ-KK like this.

exactly which street do u give up?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO ($180.55)
Button ($265.15)
SB ($291.25)
BB ($165.10)
UTG ($517.55)
Hero ($171)
MP1 ($252.70)
MP2 ($27.60)
MP3 ($165.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $9, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($30) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, MP2 folds, UTG calls $20.

Turn: ($70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, UTG calls $50.

River: ($170) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero is allin.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:40 AM
scdavis0 scdavis0 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)

I think this is fine.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)

I wrote a longer response but it's easier to just say that bluffing should only be done if you have a read that tells you there's a reasonable chance for success. No read = no bluff
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:43 AM
scdavis0 scdavis0 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)

I mean the turn is iffy when a lot of players won't fold and you got 6 outs. When you catch one of the best cards you possibly can on the river, no way can you wimp out.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:06 AM
emil3000 emil3000 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)

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I mean the turn is iffy when a lot of players won't fold and you got 6 outs. When you catch one of the best cards you possibly can on the river, no way can you wimp out.

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I agree. I'd give up on the turn with no read, but certainly the river is a clear bluff.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)

What is hero represeting with that last bullett? AA? Or is villain supposed to buy that our line is consistent with AK? If we had QQ we would check behind here.

Also the last bullet will only be 1/2 the pot... I wouldn't have the balls, but I'm not a big bluffer
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:01 AM
emil3000 emil3000 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)

The line is consistent with AK since it in fact is AQ.
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:38 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)

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What is hero represeting with that last bullett?

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Hero is representing: 9x, AA, KK, AK, x[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 22, 66, 99

I think this line is quite possible with all of these holdings, except maybe 99.
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)

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If we had QQ we would check behind here.

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I would certainly not check behind with QQ after playing flop and turn like this.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:58 PM
tdomeski tdomeski is offline
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Default Re: 200NL...I keep swearing I\'ll stop this...2 barrel bluff (or 3)

if he folded you were ahead or he is an idiot...

if you know he's an idiot then good play...

if not, bad bluff...

the answer is in your read...nothing we can say can help you.

holla.
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