Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Tournament Poker > One-table Tournaments
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

View Poll Results: Were you the fat kid
Yes 20 10.26%
No 175 89.74%
Voters: 195. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-16-2005, 11:28 PM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 7
Default BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..

***** Hand History for Game 2548156070 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14906005 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Tuesday, August 16, 23:15:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 14038 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: sellalot ( $6310 )
Seat 6: EAMelguizo ( $2125 )
Seat 8: mikeylions ( $290 )
Seat 10: Itachi86 ( $1275 )
Trny:14906005 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Itachi86 [ 9d Ad ]
Itachi86

UH OH WHAT DO YOU DO???? holla
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-16-2005, 11:32 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..

I like a minraise here. If you get reraised by one of the bigger stacks behin you, you can reasonably assume that they have a pretty strong hand, and can fold and make a move when you are already ITM. More than likely, the two others will fold, and you will be HU against the short stack with what should be a favorite to knock him out and add to your chip total.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-16-2005, 11:35 PM
Myst Myst is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4
Default Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..

[ QUOTE ]
I like a minraise here. If you get reraised by one of the bigger stacks behin you, you can reasonably assume that they have a pretty strong hand, and can fold and make a move when you are already ITM. More than likely, the two others will fold, and you will be HU against the short stack with what should be a favorite to knock him out and add to your chip total.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ha! Miniraising is absolutely the worst thing you can do. A perceptive player is going to notice that, take that for weakness, and reraise over the top with any two, and YOU CANT call, even if you know hes pushing any two, b/c of the uber short stack.

Back to raptor. I dont give a $hit what ICM says about this situation. Its all about relative chip power. In other words, how much more improved is your situation going to be if you successfully steal the blinds? 1200->1500 is not much, esp with the uber short stack about to bust.

ICM is a theorhetical structure to HELP us understand sngs better, but, its not the ABSOLUTE theory.

Fold.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-16-2005, 11:36 PM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..

Anyone who folded...you honestly like the odds of getting dealt anything better in the next two hands?

POOOOOOSH!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-16-2005, 11:37 PM
Myst Myst is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4
Default Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..

[ QUOTE ]
Anyone who folded...you honestly like the odds of getting dealt anything better in the next two hands?

POOOOOOSH!

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh, there is a short stack that is about to go Bye Bye next hand.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-16-2005, 11:37 PM
The Don The Don is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 399
Default Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..

If you like money you should fold.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-16-2005, 11:40 PM
bluefeet bluefeet is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: galapagos islands of course
Posts: 825
Default Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..

minraise. shortie just might bail (despite getting something like 8:1) if button or SB push back - in which case you fold. so be it...he's all-in next hand and you still have close to t1000 chips. if he comes along, i call. he has to beat both of you.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-16-2005, 11:40 PM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 56
Default Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..

[ QUOTE ]
I like a minraise here. If you get reraised by one of the bigger stacks behin you, you can reasonably assume that they have a pretty strong hand, and can fold and make a move when you are already ITM. More than likely, the two others will fold, and you will be HU against the short stack with what should be a favorite to knock him out and add to your chip total.


[/ QUOTE ]

If I'm the big stack I'm pushing any two back at a min raise.

I would probably still push here despite the really small stack. I would be a little concerned that the BB might fold his blind the the shortstack in order to keep the bubble alive.

edit: misread the hand, thought bigstack was in the BB, now I would fold.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-16-2005, 11:40 PM
Karak567 Karak567 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 16
Default Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..

[ QUOTE ]
I like a minraise here. If you get reraised by one of the bigger stacks behin you, you can reasonably assume that they have a pretty strong hand, and can fold and make a move when you are already ITM. More than likely, the two others will fold, and you will be HU against the short stack with what should be a favorite to knock him out and add to your chip total.

[/ QUOTE ]

If I am a big stack and I see you minraise and then look down at 32o I can't get all in fast enough.

I say fold, and I do not think it is close.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-16-2005, 11:41 PM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 56
Default Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..

[ QUOTE ]
Uh, there is a short stack that is about to go Bye Bye next hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this is a serious mistake to assume this...

edit: oops, thought the bigstack was the BB, nevermind this is a much safer assumption
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.