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Old 10-18-2005, 09:27 AM
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Default definitive sit-n-go strategy article???

is there a definitie sit-n-go strategy article or two out there? (and yes, i've searched quite a bit for one).

i see so much "keep your powder dry, and wait for huge opportunities" but the blinds start very low and move up very fast.

looking for someone who's actually done some simulation and math in writing the article... i mean, there must come a point where the blinds are so small that it's essentially meaningless if you call early and then get raised out of hand (example would be one million starting chips and the blinds are 10/20 - what would be the downside of calling every unraised pot pre-flop??)

i see some good stuff but most of it is just from rank amateurs like me... i wonder if one of the great poker writers out there has done anything???

thanks in advance!!
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:37 AM
Cactus Jack Cactus Jack is offline
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Default Re: definitive sit-n-go strategy article???

Oh, goody, let me be the first to set fire to this post. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Is it such a human thing to want everything to be easy?

If there were such a thing as a definitive article or two, would there be any point in playing anything out?

Would a writer who knew the "secret handshake" be an idiot to disclose it?

Finally, how can there be two of anything which are definitive?

And I bet I'm the only one who responds that isn't going to fry you. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Let me be the first to point out that there is an excellent FAQ at the top of the page.

CJ
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: definitive sit-n-go strategy article???

[ QUOTE ]
Oh, goody, let me be the first to set fire to this post. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Is it such a human thing to want everything to be easy?

If there were such a thing as a definitive article or two, would there be any point in playing anything out?

Would a writer who knew the "secret handshake" be an idiot to disclose it?

Finally, how can there be two of anything which are definitive?

And I bet I'm the only one who responds that isn't going to fry you. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Let me be the first to point out that there is an excellent FAQ at the top of the page.

CJ

[/ QUOTE ]

Can I be second? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:01 AM
Gomez22 Gomez22 is offline
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Default Re: definitive sit-n-go strategy article???

Your avatar makes me feel quite uneasy...
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: definitive sit-n-go strategy article???

cactus jack,

do you not have anything better to do with your time??? it's really quite pathetic. and yes, it is!

are there not definitive books like sklansky's TOP???
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: definitive sit-n-go strategy article???

TOP isn't the definitive book on any particular poker game.

The Sng books that are out there (mcevoy/daugherty and a few others) are pretty bad, especially when it comes to endgame play. This forum IS the definitive resource out there, and there is tons of information to be found here.

Learn to use the search feature.
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Old 10-18-2005, 12:14 PM
Cactus Jack Cactus Jack is offline
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Default Re: definitive sit-n-go strategy article???

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cactus jack,

do you not have anything better to do with your time??? it's really quite pathetic. and yes, it is!

are there not definitive books like sklansky's TOP???

[/ QUOTE ]

Not quite as pathetic as your original post, but it's within range. A definitive work would be one, not one or two. You're asking people to give you what they've worked very had to obtain for themselves. Do the work, boy.

Surprisingly, there may be something good to come of this thread.

Citanul, of course people would buy a book specifically devoted to SNGs. Whether that book could be written and cover any new ground is questionable. Some play the push-bot way, by the numbers using sng-pt and ICM, and others have differing styles. How one could cover all this and not be extremely controversial would be a neat trick.

CJ--who guesses he really doesn't have anything better to do
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Old 10-19-2005, 09:37 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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Default whatever you do

take your own money and self-publish your product. there are some very great books on self-publishing as well as websites.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:48 AM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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Default Re: definitive sit-n-go strategy article???

basically, the standard abc 2+2 sng strategy is to raise qq+/ak in early levels, limp in for <10% of stack with pocket pairs and play them for set value only

once you have <10bbs, you push or fold; when u get to 7.5bbs, the blinds are 20% of ur stack, so u open up quite a bit...we then use ICM-based decisions based on instinct honed using sngpt (sitngo-analyzer.com) to decide when to push/fold on the bubble

the factors in determining if u should push/fold (in order)

a) blinds
b) stack sizes
c) position
d) villian (calling/pushing range)
e) your cards


beyond that, u can play more poker by loosening up earlier on, or u can work on your resteals and stop-and-gos and other moves when someone enters the pot before u on the bubble, etc to get better roi...but the above is the standard abc guide

if u are serious about sngs, get sngpt from that website...best investment u can make in sngs
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Old 10-18-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: definitive sit-n-go strategy article???

Should bear in mind that the structure makes a great deal of difference. I play mostly 6 handed SnGs paying 2:1 with a good structure, so the mean stack on the bubble is normally 20 or 40 times the BB. (And I usually have more. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) I don't think a simple ultra-tight push/fold strategy will work well in this case.
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